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An '08 with 1,756 miles on it for $3,600? Funny thing is - the photos seem to have been taken at Max BMW in NY..

Of course I replied that my son will be right over with the payment.. and we'll see how the story goes. More then likely "I've been deployed overseas, and the bike is in a warehouse for storage, and will be shipped to you - no charge - as soon as I see a deposit, then you have 30 days to decide if you want to keep it.."

Anyone else in on the fun? :)
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Hey Don, I've already got dibs on that bike via wire transfer of funds to Nigeria. The bike seems to be owned by deposed, expatriated but rightful heir to throne, who needs to raise funds required to process his currently inaccessible millions of net worth.
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Don't know where you saw that listing but there is an r12r with that exact milage for sale on maxbmw website listing for $11,990.
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Bet the one on Max's website has the same photos too..

My first response from the scammer:
Miserable Rotten Scammer wrote: Hello,

You can send me the money now online to my bank account details :
Bank name: Barclays
Branch sort code : 20-29-37
Account number : 73580946
SWIFTBIC: BARCGB22
IBAN: GB58 BARC 2029 3773 5809 46

It is highly recommended to use the Urgent transfer method offered by your bank if you want us to begin the delivery this tomorrow, otherwise a regular transfer can take up to 7 working days.

Thank you and hope to hear from you soon
Right. I'll be right on it. I've asked where it is - so my son can go look at it. I'm awaiting the tale that is sure to follow..
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gunnarson wrote:Don't know where you saw that listing but there is an r12r with that exact milage for sale on maxbmw website listing for $11,990.
Geewhilikers..

Max's ad: http://www.maxbmw.com/machine/details.asp?ID=2645

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How about that? Floor looks just like Max's, even has the same post in the background..:

The scam ad: http://motorcycles.oodle.com/view/2008- ... fornia-mo/

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Found the photo source: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-BMW ... 2a0a868bbe

Max has it on ebay. Same photos. I've reported it - be interesting to see how soon it's pulled down off Oodle..
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deilenberger wrote:Bet the one on Max's website has the same photos too..

My first response from the scammer:
Miserable Rotten Scammer wrote: Hello,

You can send me the money now online to my bank account details :
Bank name: Barclays
Branch sort code : 20-29-37
Account number : 73580946
SWIFTBIC: BARCGB22
IBAN: GB58 BARC 2029 3773 5809 46

It is highly recommended to use the Urgent transfer method offered by your bank if you want us to begin the delivery this tomorrow, otherwise a regular transfer can take up to 7 working days.

Thank you and hope to hear from you soon
Right. I'll be right on it. I've asked where it is - so my son can go look at it. I'm awaiting the tale that is sure to follow..
Oh, and don't forget to ask for the VIN, so you can check to see whether the recall work's been done on it...

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Also, better check and maybe he will take PayPal? Also, make sure that you tell them you are an Oceanographer trying to surprise your nephew for his birthday ... gotta love these online a**holes!!
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Plainfield, PA? I'm sitting about five miles from there.
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Looks like Oodle took the ad down (I reported it - with the link to Max's).. but why it's looking for R12R's in Plainfield PA is beyond me.. :)
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Did you forward this to the local or state authorities? It may seem pointless, but they do investigate these and prosecute such scammers.
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The sort code and IBAN are valid.

This account info needs to go here, http://www.cifas.org.uk/

to shut the UK account down.
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DMM wrote:Did you forward this to the local or state authorities? It may seem pointless, but they do investigate these and prosecute such scammers.
What state? What local? I doubt if the scammer is in the US. And my local LEOs wouldn't understand what was going on.
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sjbmw wrote:The sort code and IBAN are valid.

This account info needs to go here, http://www.cifas.org.uk/

to shut the UK account down.
I'd suggest pointing them at this thread, and let them contact Oodle for the info. I haven't heard anything from them since I asked where the bike was..

BTW - I just took a glance at their website (didn't bother poking around a bunch) - and it appears to be for commercial enterprises, didn't see any easy to click button for reporting suspected fraud. More business to business's protecting each other's butts. Mebbe I missed it..?
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deilenberger wrote:
DMM wrote:Did you forward this to the local or state authorities? It may seem pointless, but they do investigate these and prosecute such scammers.
What state? What local? I doubt if the scammer is in the US. And my local LEOs wouldn't understand what was going on.
Whatever is local or state to you. This should go to the Bureau for internet fraud; however, sending it to your state authorities is often a good first step. Of course, the web host should forward this to the Feds, but it's best not to rely on that.
You saw this for what it was, but not all do. As you surely know, these scams work because some folks out there are gullible enough to fall for them.
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Problem now is - since Oodle took the ad down, there is nothing to refer the authorities to. This was such a blatant scam that I find it hard to believe anyone would fall for it.
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Ah - the game is afoot.. she (he) is still on the hook:
Scammerowski wrote:Hello,

First I want to thank you for being interested about my bike. The bike is still for sale and it is in perfect condition, no scratches, dents or hidden defects , never involved in any kind of accidents. I`am selling at this price because i just finished the divorce with my husband and When the divorce has finished i owned this bike. Now as a women i don't need it anymore. I am a divorced woman with 2 children to take care off , and I just want to sell my bike, which I obtained after the divorced . The bike is located in New York , because I just finished the divorce with my husband and i have moved here to my parents for a while.

If you are interested to buy it just let me know and i can also send you more pictures and more details.

Thank you Mary
Somehow she went from Cheryl R in the scam ad to Mary. I'll be replying, hang on..
Me to Scammer wrote:Dear Mary,

Thank you for the quick reply. It's indeed fortuitous that the bike is in New York, since I'm in New York and can pick it up, and pay you at the same time. I'm sorry to hear about the divorce. Do you have a photo or two of the bike to send me? And perhaps one with you in the photo?

Thank you!
OK, she's on the hook, and lets see where we can take this one..
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Also received from "Mary" a few minutes before the above - the setting up the scam payment part:
Mary/Cheryl/Scammer wrote:I can deliver it to your shipping address (i will pay for the shipping and insurance fees) and i will agree to let you test and inspect it for 5 days just to be sure. In this 5 days you will test the conditions of the car.If something won't be like you expected to be you can return it without any expense. It will come with all the paper work.The payment will be made after you will test and inspect the car.

The deal will go through eBay Motors. In this way both of us will have the required assurance that the deal will take place well. A refund policy will be included.
If you agree with these terms please reply me with your full name, shipping address,email address(example: mrymry1962 at aol dot com) and phone# so that i can forward them to eBay. They will send you a complete list with instructions.

I`m waiting for your reply as soon as possible.
Usual "advance fee" scam. Sigh.. the scammers seem to have lost their creativity. And they're using the script for a car - not a motorcycle.

This I'll carefully ignore.
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To me, this is a scam for sure. I have not been through exactly this but I often have such emails in my inbox with the subject like "Confidential, Important Business Opportunity etc"

Once my brother got almost trapped by a so-called Nigerian bank manager who offered him to become beneficiary of a dead-account and get millions of dollars shared amongst them. My brother told me about that and I looked into the matter and found all bogus things (fake passport shared by that nigerian guy, fake authority letter and other fake documents). I straight forwardly suggested my brother to discontinue any communication with this guy and so he did. You what happened in the end???? That guy came to almost weeping for the money he spent on generating and scanning the documents :)

Until and unless you are very sure about any offer, must not go to believe anyone in this world.

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This web site is fun.

http://www.419eater.com/
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