I am attempting to purchase this for my 1200R, but confusion about which "bits" I have to also buy in order to attach it to the bike.
At the moment, I have the naked bike. I don't want the BMW topcase because of the small capcity, and I haven't any plans to have the BMW panniers. The BMW dealer says I could have their side pannier rails + rear rack, then all I'd need to do is fit the Givi onto that with the appropriate Givi adapter plate. The shop ordering the Givi box say that I have to have the Givi side arms + their adapter plate.
Until I contact the shop again next week (I've paid £50 deposit), do any of you know what I really need, or have some pics of the same set-up for me to show the man in the shop (Hein Gericke)?? Thanks in advance - ps I haven't yet ordered anything from BMW.
R1200R, Night Black, 2007
R1150R, Black, 2001
Black is Best
Nippess, I've been through this saga. I dont know which dealer is advising you but there is no way that the Givi kit will fit on the R1200R rack and side attachments as supplied by BMW. Givi do a conversion top plate for the 1200RT and 1200ST but not for the R. To attach only the Givi top box you'll need to buy the Givi rack but you don't need to buy the Givi side pannier attachments as well. In the end I went with the BMW stuff, so I have a virtually brand new V46 top box if you haven't got one yet and am just down the road from you. PM me if interested. The BMW top box is a little too small and I would have preferred the Givi but I just couldn't find a way to attach it to the BMW rack without some major modifications.
Nippess,
Mounted my Givi 46 [formerly on an R1150RS] to my R1200R with a minimum of fabrication. After buying and installing the BMW sidecase\luggage rack rail set, it took about 2 hours to design and configure suitable brackets for the underside of the luggage rack to receive the fastening system supplied with the Givi [universal] baseplate; a longer set of fasteners and a couple of small 3/8" thick Poly plates cut to fit was about the extent of the Fab work. Bear in mind, Givi's Universal Plate is quite adaptable. Fortunately I didn't sell it with the R1150RS [The Universal base plate was originally supplied as a component in the R1150RS specific Givi Kit "E183"]. Using only the Universal Baseplate portion of that Kit it really was all quite easy and the result is as sturdy as when the system was mounted to the RS; which did over 50K with that case. I'm quite happy with the result. BTW my Dealer was the one who told me it was going to be "no problem" because the Givi Plate was so adaptable.
Regards,
Roger
Roger
"No man was ever so much deceived by another as by himself."
It's all really easy.
If the the top box is all you want, then the the Givi Monorack, 688FZ, is all you need.
I've got the arrangement on my R12R. 4(?) bolts and you're done.
Aesthetics might be questionable, but where else do you pack your lunch?
Cheers,
Ivars
The Givi and BMW luggage are incompatible with each other due to mounting method, so if the top case and hardware is Givi, it will not fit BMW bags/hardware, and vice versa, BMW top case/hardware will not fit Givi Bags.
IMHO, the Givi's look better than the BMW, while on, but the BMW side case brackets look better when the cases are off.
FZ688 Monorack hardware for top case
PLX688 Side frames for V series cases
V35N Matt black side cases.
Z228 3- lock set (this will enable you to have all 3 cases on the same key
number).
Thank you, guys - whatever would we do without our computers?? I think I have everything arranged now. Once I have sorted & fixed the necessary items, I will come back and let you know what I did (don't want to spoil it now, just be patient please!)
R1200R, Night Black, 2007
R1150R, Black, 2001
Black is Best
Incompatible?
Gents, I have a Givi 46 mounted to a BMW OEM Luggage rack, with BMW OEM sidecases mounted.... I too was wondering why all the vendor sites hawking Givi aftermarket luggage made this same declaration about the two solutions being incompatable. Simple answer: GIVI, E250/Universal Top Case Mount
"To be used on tubular luggage rack or other flat surfaces."
BTW, if you haven't noticed -the BMW OEM Luggage rack is a FLAT surface....
Do as you'd like, but be wary of the meaning of term "incompatible" as applied to the luggage question. Granted, the two "mounting solutions" will not interchangeably allow using either vendor's cases on the other's racks. However, the Givi 46 in combination with the E250 baseplate was intended to be adaptable; and I will tell you definitively that the Givi solution can be applied to an R1200R permitting a secure and clean looking installation of the Givi 46 topcase affixed to the BMW OEM Luggage rack..
Regards,
Roger
Roger
"No man was ever so much deceived by another as by himself."
Roger John wrote:
Do as you'd like, but be wary of the meaning of term "incompatible" as applied to the luggage question. Granted, the two "mounting solutions" will not interchangeably allow using either vendor's cases on the other's racks. However, the Givi 46 in combination with the E250 baseplate was intended to be adaptable; and I will tell you definitively that the Givi solution can be applied to an R1200R permitting a secure and clean looking installation of the Givi 46 topcase affixed to the BMW OEM Luggage rack..
Wow! This is good news. My 12R came with side case mounts, but I have a V46. What BMW pieces do I need, and do you have pics?
Dan-A. Not quite as simple as that unfortunately. You will need to obtain the BMW side rail/topcase rack hardware before you can mount the E250 baseplate and use your V46. From what you say, I believe you only have the BMW side rail kit fitted. In addition, the Givi monorack hardware will not fit the bike while the BMW side rails are attached as they use the same mounting points.
While the E250 base plate will fit the BMW rear rack plate, imho it detracts from the look of the BMW kit and the mounting brackets underneath look rough, although you can't see them too well from a distance. Secondly, the strength of the topbox mounting, while adequate, cannot be as strong as mounting a Givi box directly to a Givi top plate which is mounted directly to a Givi monorack. Hope you solve the luggage thing.
Right Hand Drive wrote:Dan-A. Not quite as simple as that unfortunately. You will need to obtain the BMW side rail/topcase rack hardware before you can mount the E250 baseplate and use your V46. From what you say, I believe you only have the BMW side rail kit fitted. In addition, the Givi monorack hardware will not fit the bike while the BMW side rails are attached as they use the same mounting points.
While the E250 base plate will fit the BMW rear rack plate, imho it detracts from the look of the BMW kit and the mounting brackets underneath look rough, although you can't see them too well from a distance. Secondly, the strength of the topbox mounting, while adequate, cannot be as strong as mounting a Givi box directly to a Givi top plate which is mounted directly to a Givi monorack. Hope you solve the luggage thing.
Sounds like an all Givi or all BMW solution is still the best way to go.
So, Roger John or Dan-A, can you post up pics of your respective solutions? I think that we're in "early days" with respect to the luggage options for the 12R, and help from the beta testers is good stuff.
hoonu wrote:So, Roger John or Dan-A, can you post up pics of your respective solutions? I think that we're in "early days" with respect to the luggage options for the 12R, and help from the beta testers is good stuff.
My solution so far is to ride my Gold Wing on the really long rides, and leave my R1200R "NAKED"
I am on the waiting list for the F800GS, and if I like the ride, I will bag it, and ride it, and still leave the 1200R nakey.
At last, here is an update on how I have managed to sort out this arrangement of luggage
I have gone for the Givi V46 topcase which is attached to my bike using the Givi arms & mounting plate.
It makes the bike look a bit wider from behind, which can be a good thing, and handling doesn't seem to be much different (yet to try out on motorways/faster A roads! Many thanks to Right Hand Drive (Rich) for his help - saved me lots of money and my other half who spent an afternoon in our garage with a screwdriver & my bike keys as I opted to watch football in the rain
We even have a picture to show you....first drops of rain on my shiny new bike!
R1200R, Night Black, 2007
R1150R, Black, 2001
Black is Best
I have the V46 on my GS, and would like to transplant it to an R12R (If I make the leap). My conversations with BMW folks indicate that the BMW rack won't support the kind of weight that the V46 will hold, so I suppose for me it will either be GiVi side bags and the V46, or BMW bags and a seat pack...
I think I have everything arranged now. Once I have sorted & fixed the necessary items, I will come back and let you know what I did (don't want to spoil it now, just be patient please!) 
Incompatible? 
Many thanks to Right Hand Drive (Rich) for his help - saved me lots of money 
