Just bought a set of Systems Cases off of eBay. Seller forgot to mention the key went with the sale of the bike. Hmmmmm. He was kind enough to provide the VIN and engine number. Talked to Engle Motors in KC - they said this didn't help. I am expecting to buy new locks (though these could be rekeyed if they could be removed). Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Telford
Help! - Missing Key for System Cases
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Locks
I'm assuming here that the cases arrived closed and locked. If so, you need a locksmith to pick the locks and get access to the lock mechanism. Then just pop the locks and either replace them with new locks or get them re-keyed to your key. There were a few good posts about this a while back that someone will have. I used the instructions and it was a breeze for mne when I had a similar problem. Good luck - Mick.
I ride an R1150GS Adventure with sidecar. IBA #39193
Ok kids....this is going to make you feel real good about the security of your system cases. Figured I'd see if I could pick the locks. Grabbed the first thing that came to mind, which happened to be the nail file on a pair of toenail clippers. Inserted file into the lock - a little jigging - and wham - lock opens. Ok - beginners luck I figure. Try it on the second one - wham - it opens too. Both cases picked in under a minute. I'm going over to the true dark side (really gotta try this on the ignition lock). Look out Fort Knox. Ok - so cases are now unlocked. Which, I understand makes it easy to get the locks rekeyed - or at least replaced.
Last edited by endure26 on Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Don't drill them!!!!!!!
Someone will come up with the re-keying option data and it will be far better to and cheaper to re-key the existing ones. I'll have a hunt at home tonight and see if I can find the instructions that were dug up for me. No promises that I kept them though. A locksmith should be able to open them in about 10 seconds flat! They are the simplest of designs as far as the barrel goes, so cost should be bugger-all. Popping the barrel out is also a simple task with a small nail or rod, but you need the handles to be open to uncover the hole.
Just give this post a bit of time to get a response.
EDIT Must have been posting at the same time! Like I said - Simple lock system and not real secure. NOW - Have a look for a small hole near the base of the lock mechanism and where the handles sit. Insert a small rod or nail or drill bit to depress the bottom key-plate of the lock, and out it pops as a complete assembly. Nothing too it. The release plate is not very visible, but you need to feel for it and depress it against its spring. You may need to have your nail file in the lock to simulate the 'unlocked' position of the tabs.
Someone will come up with the re-keying option data and it will be far better to and cheaper to re-key the existing ones. I'll have a hunt at home tonight and see if I can find the instructions that were dug up for me. No promises that I kept them though. A locksmith should be able to open them in about 10 seconds flat! They are the simplest of designs as far as the barrel goes, so cost should be bugger-all. Popping the barrel out is also a simple task with a small nail or rod, but you need the handles to be open to uncover the hole.
Just give this post a bit of time to get a response.
EDIT Must have been posting at the same time! Like I said - Simple lock system and not real secure. NOW - Have a look for a small hole near the base of the lock mechanism and where the handles sit. Insert a small rod or nail or drill bit to depress the bottom key-plate of the lock, and out it pops as a complete assembly. Nothing too it. The release plate is not very visible, but you need to feel for it and depress it against its spring. You may need to have your nail file in the lock to simulate the 'unlocked' position of the tabs.
Last edited by MIXR on Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I ride an R1150GS Adventure with sidecar. IBA #39193
Well, endure, thanks for making us all feel secureendure26 wrote:Ok kids....this is going to make you feel real good about the security of your system cases. Figured I'd see if I could pick the locks. Grabbed the first thing that came to mind, which happened to be the nail file on a pair of toenail clippers. Inserted file into the lock - a little jigging - and wham - lock opens. Ok - beginners luck I figure. Try it on the second one - wham - it opens too. Both cases picked in under a minute. I'm going over to the true dark side (really gotta try this on the ignition lock). Look out Fort Knox. Ok - so cases are now unlocked. Which, I understand makes it easy to get the locks rekeyed - or at least replaced.
I felt like I won the lottery when I bought my bike last week and it came with the cases. Now all of a sudden I feel like I'll need to buy some chains on em. 
It aint over til it's over!
Ok - lock cores are out. Off to BMW later this week. Picking the locks was actually easier than removing the cores - hehehehehe. I used a 2mm allen wrench in the hole and my ignition key to pull them. Hopfully I can have these rekeyed to match or simply buy new ones. Either way - cases are in like new condition and less than half the cost of new. I'm stoked!
Thanks for your help Mixr!
Thanks for your help Mixr!
Great news - Glad to help - I recall re-keying being US$10 a lock from someone else. Maybe wrong on that, but much cheaper than new locks anyway. You can do it yourself by shuffling the tabs to match your key, but it gets a bit tricky when you pull the locks apart.
Pleased it worked out.
Pleased it worked out.
I ride an R1150GS Adventure with sidecar. IBA #39193
Re-keying locks
Ok, here you go. Best re-keying photo essay in existance. I used this when I bought my cases and locks.
http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/keying_bmw_locks
http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/keying_bmw_locks