Cee Baileys Windshields

[Airman]

I've been interested in Cee Baileys touring shields for some time but was unsure what the difference was compared to my BMW touring shield. Here's a copy of my correspondence with them. As you will see, the 19.5" screen is only slightly taller than the stock BMW screen. Although they are somewhat wider, the height was my primary interest as I am looking for better protection and hopefully less turbulence and noise.

From: Joe
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: FW: Cee Baileys General Info / Sales

Bob,

Sounds about right and yes this same measurement method applies to the Euro. Please keep in mind there will always be fractional differences.

Joe

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From: Ken
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM
To: Joe
Subject: Fw: Cee Baileys General Info / Sales
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From: "Bob
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:58:05 -0700
To: 'Ken'<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Cee Baileys General Info / Sales
Joe,

Thanks very much for the measurements.
Here’s what I did, I ran 3/8” wide tape between the centers of the windshield mount screws. The measurement to that line is about 13 5/16”. Does that sound about right ? Now, do those measurements apply to the Euro-cut shields ?

Thanks,
Bob

From: Ken [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:35 AM
To: Bob
Subject: RE: Cee Baileys General Info / Sales

Bob,

Thanks for your inquiry and interest in our product. If you draw a straight line between the upper mounting holes to top center of the shield, the distance is as follows; 19 .5 is 13.75, 21.5 is 15.75 and the 22 dome FYI is 16.25. I hope this helps and if you required further assistance don’t hesitate to call us.

Regards

Joe Duval
General Manager
Cee Bailey's Plastics
Montebello CA, 90640
800-788-0618 Ext # 337





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From: Bob
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:33 PM
To: Ken
Subject: Cee Baileys General Info / Sales
Hi,

I am interested in the 19.5 or 21.5 inch windshield for my 2003 BMW R1150R. I am having trouble comparing the height of your windshields with my stock touring shield. It would be helpful if you could tell me the measurement from the upper mounts to the top of the windshield. That would give me some comparison with my current windshield. I tried to get information from South Sound BMW in Fife WA. but they don’t carry that particular windshield and did not know the dimensions of the screen.

Thanks,

Bob

[peterbulgar]

This doesn't answer your query, but I believe that the windscreen height is usually measured from the top of the headlight cutout to the top of the screen. I don't remember the height of the screen on my bike, and it is at home, so I can't measure the screen height and tell you what it is.

I went the opposite direction from the one you are contemplating: I replaced my BMW touring screen with the CEE Bailey sport screen with the Euro cutout. I sometimes refit the touring screen for long trips, if I anticipate cold weather and lots of rain - such as on a recent trip to Alaska.

I never had the severe noise and buffetting issues that some on this list have reported with the touring screen, but I do prefer the shorter screen for 90% of my riding. If you are particularly tall with a long torso, YMMV.
peter '04 R1150RA, '73 R75/5

[baltm604]

I ran both the touring shield and a cee bailey's. both were about the same size.

The CB pushed the air up higher and was a quiter ride for me. I did not notice a change in mpg.

The shape will make the shield seem taller than the bmw touring, if that helps.

Bill

[Airman]

I ran both the touring shield and a cee bailey's. both were about the same size.

The CB pushed the air up higher and was a quiter ride for me. I did not notice a change in mpg.

The shape will make the shield seem taller than the bmw touring, if that helps.

Bill

Thanks, I can see that the 19.5 inch screen is close to the same height ar the BMW touring screen. I'm not expecting an increase in mileage. I would like to have less turbulence and buffeting. I put my sport screen on today, which was probably a good decision as it was 106.2 at work today. It gives more airflow to work on the water I poured over myself before departing. Going in I got stopped on I-5 because some smoker set the median on fire and made them close 3 of the 4 lanes. I thought about Gypsy's 117 degree reading in traffic and figured I must be getting close. Had to ride the shoulder to escape.
But, the sport screen allows turbulence from traffic to bump me around and drag is increased a lot.

Maybe it's my riding style. I spend a lot of time in heavy, moderately high speed traffic. There's a lot of what I guess we'd call "wake turbulence" That is part if what I'm trying to address.

[Digitalxrayguy]

HI, first post here - just picked up an '04 1150RT. This is the 3rd BMW, first was an LT, crashed it, my fault and the second was a GT (beautiful bike), just crahed it but not my fault this time. A cage ran into my lane at 30mph, slow freeway. Walked away from this last one, got the insurance check and picked up the RT. I'm liking the upright sit etc. but that's not why I'm replying here. On my GT, I bought a Laminar Lip. It helped a lot to move the air over my head and make it a little quieter. Cheap and easy to remove if you don't like it. I had it for 2 years in all kinds of driving including over 130mph (that's why I didn't want another GT - too tempting) and never any buffeting or other problems. It looks a little funny at first but at 55, I worry about looks less and less. Link if you want to look:

http://www.laminarlip.com/r1100rt.php

Best,
Roger

[rdsmith3]

Let us know how this works out for you.

You got the 19.5"??

[Airman]

This doesn't answer your query, but I believe that the windscreen height is usually measured from the top of the headlight cutout to the top of the screen. I don't remember the height of the screen on my bike, and it is at home, so I can't measure the screen height and tell you what it is.

I went the opposite direction from the one you are contemplating: I replaced my BMW touring screen with the CEE Bailey sport screen with the Euro cutout. I sometimes refit the touring screen for long trips, if I anticipate cold weather and lots of rain - such as on a recent trip to Alaska.

I never had the severe noise and buffetting issues that some on this list have reported with the touring screen, but I do prefer the shorter screen for 90% of my riding. If you are particularly tall with a long torso, YMMV.
peter '04 R1150RA, '73 R75/5

Peter,

I don't how you can use the sport shield that much. I have the sport shield on now, I installed it when it was 106 here and I thought the airflow might feel good. Last night I was enjoying the cool air, but realised I was getting severe buffeting from surrounding traffic on the freeway. it bats my helmet around a bit too. Don't you experience that ?

[peterbulgar]

I don't how you can use the sport shield that much. I have the sport shield on now, I installed it when it was 106 here and I thought the airflow might feel good. Last night I was enjoying the cool air, but realised I was getting severe buffeting from surrounding traffic on the freeway. it bats my helmet around a bit too. Don't you experience that ?

Well, the CEE Bailey sport screen that I'm using, while the same height as the BMW sport screen, is a different shape. The BMW screen tapers to a point at the top, whereas the CEE Bailey screen is more square with a dip in the middle instead of a point.

However, the main difference is probably due to different body sizes: I'm 5'9" but have long legs (for my height) and a short torso, so I'm leaning forward somewhat when I'm in the saddle. I don't have barbacks and my handlebars are adjusted slightly downward rather than upright. If you do a search for windscreens on this forum (or on bmwsporttouring) you'll get almost as many hits as for oil and tires or splines You'll find that what works for one person is seemingly intolerable for someone else. Many people complain about severe buffeting with the BMW touring screen. I've noticed a slight increase in noise with the touring screen - a gentle drumming - and a slight increase in turbulence that if it were any stronger might be called minor buffeting. I don't think that my positive experience with the touring screen is because I'm such a tough guy that I'm immune to noise and buffeting -it's most likely due to my size, body configuration, and the way I sit.

You might also try adjusting the rake of the windscreen by using two washers in either the top mounts or the bottom mounts. As I recall, others on this forum have reported good results with a slight adjustment.
Peter '73 R75/5 (no screen at all), '04 R1150RA

[Airman]

I don't how you can use the sport shield that much. I have the sport shield on now, I installed it when it was 106 here and I thought the airflow might feel good. Last night I was enjoying the cool air, but realised I was getting severe buffeting from surrounding traffic on the freeway. it bats my helmet around a bit too. Don't you experience that ?

Well, the CEE Bailey sport screen that I'm using, while the same height as the BMW sport screen, is a different shape. The BMW screen tapers to a point at the top, whereas the CEE Bailey screen is more square with a dip in the middle instead of a point.

However, the main difference is probably due to different body sizes: I'm 5'9" but have long legs (for my height) and a short torso, so I'm leaning forward somewhat when I'm in the saddle. I don't have barbacks and my handlebars are adjusted slightly downward rather than upright. If you do a search for windscreens on this forum (or on bmwsporttouring) you'll get almost as many hits as for oil and tires or splines You'll find that what works for one person is seemingly intolerable for someone else. Many people complain about severe buffeting with the BMW touring screen. I've noticed a slight increase in noise with the touring screen - a gentle drumming - and a slight increase in turbulence that if it were any stronger might be called minor buffeting. I don't think that my positive experience with the touring screen is because I'm such a tough guy that I'm immune to noise and buffeting -it's most likely due to my size, body configuration, and the way I sit.

You might also try adjusting the rake of the windscreen by using two washers in either the top mounts or the bottom mounts. As I recall, others on this forum have reported good results with a slight adjustment.
Peter '73 R75/5 (no screen at all), '04 R1150RA

I'm 5'10, but I do have the Wunderlich touring bars installed, but i don't think that's the issue. Riding to and from work today I noticed the rough buffeting around the sport screen. Speed is an issue too. I run 75-80 for extended periods on the commute. If I was doing 65 I'm sure my experience would be different. At those speeds there's a lot of drag as well as the buffeting. Going in to work it felt like someone had taken me by the shoulders and shaking me back and forth. That was the effect of the wind currents around the bike. I'm sure a lot of the guys here run in high speed freeway traffic and know the disruption of air that occurs around vehicles at 75 mph, especially trucks and vans. I know the only real fix for this problem is fully faired bike, but I'm hoping the Cee Bailys will be a reasonable compromise as the RR is a much handier bike around town than any sport touring bike.