R1200R Handguards - availability?
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famousperson
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Re: R1200R Handguards - availability?
Thanks for the pics. The guards are not only practical, they look good.
'07 R1200R
Life Member #599
NAUI Inst. #1434 (since 1969)
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NAUI Inst. #1434 (since 1969)
Re: R1200R Handguards - availability?
Hello Texasmule: Do I understand it correctly. In order to get these 3 parts from Throttlemeister mentioned by you one has to buy the Throttlemeister package of about $ 150.- Is this correct?
Red Baron
Red Baron
Re: R1200R Handguards - availability?
NO! Just the kit they put together when you tell them you already have the throttlemeister.red baron wrote:Hello Texasmule: Do I understand it correctly. In order to get these 3 parts from Throttlemeister mentioned by you one has to buy the Throttlemeister package of about $ 150.- Is this correct?
Red Baron
First my wife called them and told them she had a throttlemeister and just needed the parts that would make the hand guards work. We used this list made by Tr250Tom. Throttlemeister is open 8-4 Central time. 414.464.6060
Kit Parts
1 FT Black (Throttlemeister FT) $110.00
2 GR1250 (Guard retainer) $11.00
2 OA1250 (Outer adapter) $11.50
2 SF855 (Mounting bolt) $5.00
2 IA400 (Inner adapter) $6.00
1 Shim Pack $1.50
Shipping $6.20
BUT - The nice guy told my wife she only needed 3 parts: We ordered the 3 parts, but only used the following parts.
2 of the Guard Retainers (GR1250) and the 2 mounting bolts (SF845), we ended up not using the Outer Adapter (OA1250). So in answer to your question - NO we didn't have to buy the Throttlemeister - Just the kit they put together.
She has logged almost 4,000 miles with the handguards on and they are still solid and working as intended!
Hope this answers your question! If not p.m. me.
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socalrob
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Re: R1200R Handguards - availability?
I posted the following experience regarding handguard/brake interference and the possible consequences on the Advrider forum last May:
I was tooling down the freeway today at about 65mph on my 07 GSA-ABS & realized that I was slowing down & the engine was really lugging as I gave it more throttle. I pulled the clutch in thinking I might be having engine problems (felt like the bike was under severe engine braking) and as soon as I did that the bike came to a quick if undramatic stop in the No. 3 lane of a 4 lane freeway (thats one faster than the slow lane). The bike slowed down and stopped so quick that due to traffic I could not make the shoulder, and found myself stopped dead on the freeway with traffic going by at a good 65mph.
The driver behind me swerved over, leaving a large Semi truck bearing down on me.
I considered dropping the bike & diving for the shoulder as it would not budge an inch, even though the freeway has about a 4 percent downhill grade.
Lucky for me the semi truck driver, being exceptionally kind and professional, came to a stop about 20 ft. behind me, effectively blocking traffic and prolonging my life.
With the truck behind me, I now somewhat in a panicked state, started trying to figure out my problem. Neither tire looked flat, got the bike in neutral, try as I might it would not budge.
The brakes were locked (well, front or back, or both?).
I got off the bike and tried to push it. It budged an inch. Lightbulb went on, I started the bike up, found first gear, and with lots of revs & a cloud of expensive clutch smoke, was able to get the bike to the shoulder of the freeway.
With a gracious wave to my savior the truck driver, I now looked the bike over. I tried to get the bike on the center stand but the locked wheel(s) prevented it. Jumped the barrier wall & called the wife & AAA, as I did not want to wait forever for BMW Roadside Assistance.
While waiting for AAA (who got there with a flat bed in 30 min) I checked out the bike. The front brake lever had almost zero movement. Then I noticed that the front brake reservoir looks 100 percent full. After about 10 minutes a bit of play came back on the lever & I was able to get the bike on the centerstand. The rear wheel felt free and the front still felt a bit bindy.
By the time AAA came along the front wheel felt free. I had the towtruck follow me off the freeway and back to home (about 3 miles).
About 1/2 mile from home I noticed the front hand guard was misaligned and interfering just a bit with the front brake lever.
So question here, could the hand guard have caused some brake drag, causing brakes to heat up, causing fluid to heat, expand & fill reservoir, causing brakes to lock???
Bike only has 11,500 miles, so am a bit surprized that fluid level would be too high.
Turns out that yes indeed, a very, very small interference on the brake lever can cause the "release" valve in the master cylinder to close, and with a small amount of pressure on the rotors, heat to build, fluid to expand, and pads to lock. Although I take responsibility for not spotting the interference (I would say the brake lever was depressed maybe a 1/16th of an inch), I do think BMW realizes they have a somewhat dodgy design. I cured any future problem by adjusting my levers in just a bit so that it would now take considerably more movement of the guards to cause interference. If your put guards on a RR, I would keep an eye on them. Before my experience on the freeway I had no idea that the issue was not just premature brake or clutch wear, but that it could be fatal.
I was tooling down the freeway today at about 65mph on my 07 GSA-ABS & realized that I was slowing down & the engine was really lugging as I gave it more throttle. I pulled the clutch in thinking I might be having engine problems (felt like the bike was under severe engine braking) and as soon as I did that the bike came to a quick if undramatic stop in the No. 3 lane of a 4 lane freeway (thats one faster than the slow lane). The bike slowed down and stopped so quick that due to traffic I could not make the shoulder, and found myself stopped dead on the freeway with traffic going by at a good 65mph.
The driver behind me swerved over, leaving a large Semi truck bearing down on me.
I considered dropping the bike & diving for the shoulder as it would not budge an inch, even though the freeway has about a 4 percent downhill grade.
Lucky for me the semi truck driver, being exceptionally kind and professional, came to a stop about 20 ft. behind me, effectively blocking traffic and prolonging my life.
With the truck behind me, I now somewhat in a panicked state, started trying to figure out my problem. Neither tire looked flat, got the bike in neutral, try as I might it would not budge.
The brakes were locked (well, front or back, or both?).
I got off the bike and tried to push it. It budged an inch. Lightbulb went on, I started the bike up, found first gear, and with lots of revs & a cloud of expensive clutch smoke, was able to get the bike to the shoulder of the freeway.
With a gracious wave to my savior the truck driver, I now looked the bike over. I tried to get the bike on the center stand but the locked wheel(s) prevented it. Jumped the barrier wall & called the wife & AAA, as I did not want to wait forever for BMW Roadside Assistance.
While waiting for AAA (who got there with a flat bed in 30 min) I checked out the bike. The front brake lever had almost zero movement. Then I noticed that the front brake reservoir looks 100 percent full. After about 10 minutes a bit of play came back on the lever & I was able to get the bike on the centerstand. The rear wheel felt free and the front still felt a bit bindy.
By the time AAA came along the front wheel felt free. I had the towtruck follow me off the freeway and back to home (about 3 miles).
About 1/2 mile from home I noticed the front hand guard was misaligned and interfering just a bit with the front brake lever.
So question here, could the hand guard have caused some brake drag, causing brakes to heat up, causing fluid to heat, expand & fill reservoir, causing brakes to lock???
Bike only has 11,500 miles, so am a bit surprized that fluid level would be too high.
Turns out that yes indeed, a very, very small interference on the brake lever can cause the "release" valve in the master cylinder to close, and with a small amount of pressure on the rotors, heat to build, fluid to expand, and pads to lock. Although I take responsibility for not spotting the interference (I would say the brake lever was depressed maybe a 1/16th of an inch), I do think BMW realizes they have a somewhat dodgy design. I cured any future problem by adjusting my levers in just a bit so that it would now take considerably more movement of the guards to cause interference. If your put guards on a RR, I would keep an eye on them. Before my experience on the freeway I had no idea that the issue was not just premature brake or clutch wear, but that it could be fatal.
07 1200GSA & 08 Ducati Hypermotard S
& Honda XR400
Past-04 R1150R
& Honda XR400
Past-04 R1150R
Re: R1200R Handguards - availability?
Carol wrote:I was able to put the new 08 GS handguards on my 08 R12R. They are workable but you need to switch the left and right mounting brackets. The angle does not work out correctly unless you do that. Also, shimming material would be helpful for the mount to the inside portion of the handlebars. I used the longer allenhead bolts from McMasterCarr. They are stainless steel. I also had to cut down the trim washer to be able to tighten the barend bolts.
Overall the installation looks ok. If you were not familar with the handguard issues, you would think they were made for the bike. The only issue I have at this time is not being able to get the barend bolts tight enough. The handguards don't move while riding but if you were to take ahold of one and try to move it, it would move.
At this point they do what I need them to do.
Carol
Carol:
Which part number Throttlemeister bar ends do you have? I am having to change out the heavy ones I have now because they are too long for the installation to work. It looks like the Kaoko on your photos... which part number is that ?
TIA, Doug
MSF #127350 NAUI #36288
2011 RT
WARNING: TEST RIDING THE R1200R IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FINANCES
2011 RT
WARNING: TEST RIDING THE R1200R IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FINANCES