Timing hole plug

Topics related to the ownership, maintenance, equipping, operation, and riding of the R1150R.

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
jaxter
Basic User
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:54 pm
Donating Member #: 0
Location: Yakima Washington

Timing hole plug

Post by jaxter »

Today while performing my second (2nd) valve adjust (2004 R1150R, 33,000 mi) I had wrapped up almost everything and was putting the (stock) plug back into timing port when lo, I shoved it all the way into the clutch housing :oops: Is there any way to fix this other than tearing everything down as if I were going to do a clutch replacement?
2004 R1150R - Silver
User avatar
jas
Double Lifer
Posts: 354
Joined: Mon May 15, 2006 8:54 pm
Donating Member #: 0
Location: Eagle, ID

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by jas »

jaxter - According to a BMW shop that I visit, the plug will just fall to the bottom and stay there for the rest of your bikes life. Just go down to the local shop (or online) and purchase another plug and don't worry. As I understand it there is a plug used in a different model that will fill the void and not allow the user to push all the way through the hole, maybe others will chime in with the improved plug information.
2004 Roc.
User avatar
Biff's R
Double Lifer
Posts: 2384
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:55 pm
Donating Member #: 289
Location: Newark, OH

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by Biff's R »

I have heard the same thing. It falls to the bottom, and will just sit there. Just don't put a dozen down there.

I use the arrows on the cam chain sprokets to find TDC. with the valve cover off, you can see the arrow. That plug is a pain in the arse.
Jeff (lifer #289)
'17 F800GSA
'04 R1150R
There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
NoRRmad
Double Lifer
Posts: 3687
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:47 am
Donating Member #: 388
Location: NYC

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by NoRRmad »

I think the trick to putting the plug back in is to hold it by the edges, rather than pushing on the middle. FWIW.
#388 '02 R1150R Black: The darkest color.
jaxter
Basic User
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:54 pm
Donating Member #: 0
Location: Yakima Washington

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by jaxter »

Thanx for the advice. I was looking at the service manual and thinking "Oh My oh My" or words to that effect. A quote from the "Valve Adjustment for Dummies"

Here is a list of stuff you should have on hand…
1. If you’ve still got the stock engine timing cover plug – go to BMW and get yourself a
REAL MAN’S plug from a R650-750-800-900-1000. They cost a buck. Go on. We’ll
wait right here. Where’s the fridge?

So that will be the new plug. Meanwhile a piece of duct tape to cover the hole?
2004 R1150R - Silver
User avatar
Biff's R
Double Lifer
Posts: 2384
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:55 pm
Donating Member #: 289
Location: Newark, OH

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by Biff's R »

If your dealer isn't real close, it may be worth it to pay for the shipping, or you could call Chicago BMW and get the 20% discount. But it may take 2-3 months to receive the part. :biggrin:
Jeff (lifer #289)
'17 F800GSA
'04 R1150R
There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
User avatar
towerworker
Lifer
Posts: 2371
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:11 pm
Donating Member #: 575
Location: Staunton Virginia

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by towerworker »

My 03 ran for over 3 years with duct tape over the hole.

Wayne
The Older I Get, The Less I know. (in honor of MikeCam
'05 RT
'04 R
'03 R
CB750
KZ750
HD 350 Sprint
User avatar
Boxer
Lifer
Posts: 3402
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:16 am
Donating Member #: 2
Location: Atmore, Alabama

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by Boxer »

I recently went to the dealer with my timing hole plug in my hand...to get one of those so-called "better" replacement plugs. They said they had never heard of such a thing...and didn't show anything on a parts fiche except the one I had in my hand to show them. I just went home and put the one back in that came out. I think my next project will be to punch a small hole in the center of that plug and glue a handle of some kind into my small punched hole. That will give me something to hold onto when I push it back in.
User avatar
priapismic
Basic User
Posts: 333
Joined: Mon May 16, 2005 6:01 pm
Donating Member #: 0
Location: Mayberry, NE Texas

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by priapismic »

Don't worry about it, I've lost at least one plug, possibly two (don't recall, I'm getting old and have a bad case of CRS). I ran with duct tape covering the hole for a while, but eventually it left a sticky residue. Being a fussbudget, I didn't want to leave that residue there, so next time I was at the dealer's I asked them to look up any old timing hole plug for an older Airhead. Lo and behold, they had one in stock for an R80 or R100-something that fits. And, it's larger, plus it's rubber, not plastic, and more flexible than the feeble little thing that came stock on our R. I haven't lost that one .... yet.
Viagra Donor and well-known reprobate and provocateur ....
User avatar
CycleRob
Honorary Lifer
Posts: 2857
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:29 am
Donating Member #: 1
Location: Enjoying retirement in Gainesville GA. USA
Contact:

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by CycleRob »

Here it is:

TDC plug, Bigger RT one . . . . P/N 11-11-1-744-327

It's fatter and thicker, but Darwin or Bubba could still push it thru the hole.

Since the hole in the casting is slightly oval with the top/bottom the bigger diameter, I start the plug at the 9 O'Clock position and with a screwdriver in the rubber groove at 3 O'Clock, push it inside the hole while another tool pushes in the center. Go slow. Be patient. Count the number of times it pops out as you're trying to work in the tight spot it occupies. Keep your eye on it when it flys! It bounces queitly. :shock:
.
`09 F800ST

Member since Sept 10, 2001

"Talent, On Loan, From God" --Rush Limbaugh--
User avatar
riceburner
Basic User
Posts: 3809
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:54 am
Donating Member #: 0
Location: Hiding in your blind spot....
Contact:

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by riceburner »

jaxter wrote:Thanx for the advice. I was looking at the service manual and thinking "Oh My oh My" or words to that effect. A quote from the "Valve Adjustment for Dummies"

Here is a list of stuff you should have on hand…
1. If you’ve still got the stock engine timing cover plug – go to BMW and get yourself a
REAL MAN’S plug from a R650-750-800-900-1000. They cost a buck. Go on. We’ll
wait right here. Where’s the fridge?

So that will be the new plug. Meanwhile a piece of duct tape to cover the hole?
Duct tape is fine. :)
Non quod, sed quomodo.

A Rockster Life
FloridaBeakster
Lifer
Posts: 152
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:40 am
Donating Member #: 0
Location: North Florida

Re: Timing hole plug

Post by FloridaBeakster »

Using the arrows on the cam sprocket to find TDC will keep the rubber plug from getting pushed too far in.
-Mike

'02 R1150R
'88 R100RS
Post Reply