Direction indicator / turn signal switch

[Phillo]

I saw something the other day the other day on a Harley Very similar turn signal switches to the one's on the R but with one big difference. Press once to activate turn signal - press again to cancel I must know someone who can rig up an electronic box to do the same thing for the BMW.

[taosports]

Called a Signal Minder by Kisan. Works great!
http://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4

[deilenberger]

Called a Signal Minder by Kisan. Works great!
http://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4

Michael, they are a wonderful thing. They won't work at all on a hexhead R1200R. There is no turnsignal module, it's all done by the body control (ZFE) module. One thing BMW did improve on - 4 way flashers work just like the SignalMinder's - press both turnsignals and you have 4-way flashers. Press cancel to turn them off.

Having had a Signalminder on my '04 RS - I'm of mixed view as to the turnsignal "press again to cancel" being an improvement. I found myself turning my turnsignal off when I didn't intend to.. by pressing the button a 2nd time. It's probably my insecurity doing it - I never remember if I pressed it as I'm approaching a turn, so I sometimes press it again to make sure. With the Signalminder that turned it off, which wasn't my intention. It would probably be an OK feature if there was only one way to turn off the signal - you'd get used to using the one way, but the Signalminder gives you two ways.. which means one of them never becomes learned by instinct. (If that's confusing, so am I..)

[famousperson]

I saw something the other day the other day on a Harley Very similar turn signal switches to the one's on the R but with one big difference. Press once to activate turn signal - press again to cancel

I had that on my '03 Sportster. I miss it like crazy. The other thing about the Sportster's turn signals was that they were self-cancelling, based on a certain distance travelled. Sometimes that was a blessing, sometimes a curse. All in all, something I can do without.

[deilenberger]

I saw something the other day the other day on a Harley Very similar turn signal switches to the one's on the R but with one big difference. Press once to activate turn signal - press again to cancel

I had that on my '03 Sportster. I miss it like crazy. The other thing about the Sportster's turn signals was that they were self-cancelling, based on a certain distance travelled. Sometimes that was a blessing, sometimes a curse. All in all, something I can do without.

Your R12R signals are self-cancelling also.. based on a forumula of time/speed/distance. The formula figures out if you've completed a turn and have now speeded up by time/speed and distance, then turns off the signal. If you continue straight with the signal on, distance takes over, after a certain distance they turn off.

It's a "feature" I never use since I'm pretty good at remembering to cancel. As far as this being a disadvantage, I think it isn't, since I've travelled with way too many motorcyclists (including BMW riders) who imitate an old man driving a Buick.. driving mile after mile with their turnsignal flashing away. That's a safety hazard since motorists may assume you actually mean it, and ARE going to turn right at the next corner, giving them the opportunity to pull out of the corner. Instant T-bone.

[famousperson]

I saw something the other day the other day on a Harley Very similar turn signal switches to the one's on the R but with one big difference. Press once to activate turn signal - press again to cancel

I had that on my '03 Sportster. I miss it like crazy. The other thing about the Sportster's turn signals was that they were self-cancelling, based on a certain distance travelled. Sometimes that was a blessing, sometimes a curse. All in all, something I can do without.

Your R12R signals are self-cancelling also.. based on a forumula of time/speed/distance. The formula figures out if you've completed a turn and have now speeded up by time/speed and distance, then turns off the signal. If you continue straight with the signal on, distance takes over, after a certain distance they turn off.

I wondered about that! SOMETIMES it seems that the R's turn signal cancels itself but it isn't as consistent as the Harely's. I thought maybe a) I was imagining it, b) I was so used to cancelling them myself that I had but hadn't noticed that I had, c) it was an electronic quirk of the bike. In fact, I was going to post a question here about that very thing.

It's a "feature" I never use since I'm pretty good at remembering to cancel. As far as this being a disadvantage, I think it isn't, since I've travelled with way too many motorcyclists (including BMW riders) who imitate an old man driving a Buick.. driving mile after mile with their turnsignal flashing away. That's a safety hazard since motorists may assume you actually mean it, and ARE going to turn right at the next corner, giving them the opportunity to pull out of the corner. Instant T-bone.

I am compulisve about cancelling for that very reason (so I guess I usually cancel them myself before the automatic function kicks in, which is why it seems sporadic).