First Thoughts....R1200R

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First Thoughts....R1200R

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On Monday I traded in my 05' R1150R that I had about 15,000 wonderful miles with.
I'm always upgrading everything else in life, so once the 1200R was released this was inevitable. I thought I would get at least 1 more year form the 1150, but it was a must have after the test ride. Don't test ride till you're ready to buy...
While there is a certain feel, a familiarity to it that lets me know I'm on a Roadster, like the riding position or nakedness, but the comparison stops there. The 1200R has way more sport in her blood, without giving up any of the comforts IMO.
I like the stout female softball player verse the slim athletic cheerleader analogy that has been said elsewhere.
When you sit on it with your feet on the ground, it feels about the same, but when you take and roll on the throttle and the front wheel comes up, then shift and hit again with the front coming up again, you'll know your not on any R1150R.

Originally, I was looking for a different color, but it was just meant to be for me to have a black bike with stripes. The stripes rock!


I guess I'll start here.

Things I miss from my 1150R:
1. Sargent seat
2. Signal Minder. Even though the signals will eventually cancel themselves on the 1200, the signal minder is much better. Allowing me to just press and hold for quick flashes, then tap again to cancel. Plus I had it set to flash 8 times, so a rarely had to cancel it. I feel the running lights also make you more visible, and safer. Hopefully they will offer one soon for us 1200R owners.
2. Turn sign buttons are slightly smaller on the 1200, I like the 1150's better, a little more of a stretch of the thumb.
3. The mirrors. I had K-mirrors on mine and the rectangular mirrors give you better visibility, and less vibration, IMO.
4 Not having any kind of obsession about keeping it clean, the grey hides everything, the black shows it all.

Most of these things will be improved with time, as after-market stuff is released.
So I guess the only things I really miss are the signal buttons, and the smaller payment. This bike is that good.
I really does everything very well.

Engine:
Let me start by saying that I only have had my 1200 for a few day and 650 miles on her so far, so most of my driving was not done with any full throttle or redline's etc. Just spirited riding. I did get to ride a little after the service, and did bounce the needle off the redline a few times, feeling the pull through whole RPM range. I mean I always drive spirited when safe, but I haven't really seen what this thing can do yet. 6/10 maybe
I do know it was still pulling hard at 120mph before I ran out of road, that was when my 1150 was starting to fade out. Not that I'm all about going light speed, but it's nice know you have the option...
The engine pulls like the 1150 with plenty of torque at low RPM, but when the 1200 hits 4000 rpm's, hold on, the front wheel will come up in 1st AND 2nd.
This bike is a rocket. It will be fun embarrassing some squids while I'm in touring dress.....
The engine is smooth, with much less vibration, and it has a much better stock sound to it, though there is this little whine that's new to me with this engine., but I'll take it anyanyway, no problem.
The transmission is smooth, and no more clank clank so far. I think the gearing is good, 4300 RPM's is 80mph.

The brakes.
I will also admit this is my first ABS bike, along with the linked braking system. After hearing about how the older generation abs brakes felt, sounded, etc. I was skeptical about ABS. These feel the same as non ABS under normal driving, but when it's time to really stop these brakes rock, and don't take over, they just assist you and pulsate the lever to let you know they're kicking in.


" The BMW Integral ABS adapts the braking force between the front and rear , distributing the braking force according to current conditions. The dynamic load distribution between the front and rear wheel changes during braking. The heavier you brake the more the front wheel is loaded. The greater the wheel load the more breaking force can be transferred."

What this comes down to is awesome breaking.
Last year I took a BMW Performance Driving School course. The first thing they taught you was how to utilize the ABS, and how to break in an emergency situation properly. Being the kind of guy I am, I want to know how well all this great technology work's, on top of wanting to practice emergency stops with it.
I took my 1200R into a nice empty lot and did some braking tests.
Starting out slow, just like in the course I slowly built up my braking speeds, eventually up to 60 mph to full brakes with the ABS kicking in, just like if someone pulled in front of me on a 2 lane highway. 60 to 0 on this bike is insane, let me tell you.
Call me crazy, but I don't want the first time I mash on my brakes for there to be something in front of me to hit.
While on my trip to Iowa, I rode a few gravel roads, and did some similar tests with the abs on gravel, just not going quite as fast, maybe worked up to 30mph to full stop. Same great experience. A nice steady fast stop.

Speaking of gravel, I rode miles on real loose stuff, and here's a pick of the oil cooler after the gravel. I think that people's concern's about road debris damaging it are unfounded. Not going to happen IMO.

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The bike is lighter, and feels lighter. Definitely very flickable. Just think about the direction you want and you're there.
It's an easy bike to ride, a very confident feel, no surprises.
I'll get into more detail about the suspension after I've been able to dial in the correct settings for me, wear in the tires more and get some more time on her.
There is only rear shock damper adjustments, unlike the 1150R.
So far she feels nice on the road, I can't wait to get it on some mountain switchback's.

The gauges are nice, I love the start-up test procedure, and wont be tired of that anytime soon. The computer is mildly cool, for a $15,000 motorcycle, why not have it.
Is it necessary?
Not at all. But I do like the engine temp, and gas gauge. I'll still reset one of the 2 odometers every time I fill up though. Old habit are hard to break.
It is accurate as hell too. I let the gas get down to when it said I had 4 miles worth of gas left. That tank took 5.9 gallons.
The problem with the computer is that it's one more thing to take your eye's off the road and be distracted by....

Instrument test video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-5WTV-Kaw

The headlight is great, providing much better illumination IMO than the 1150. More even. The low beam has a nice cutoff line, then when you add the brights it's just perfect on the open road. Since it uses H11 lamps, I'm looking into some of those hyper white lamps to upgrade to, keeping it at 55 watts so as not to upset the canbus system.
At the very least, it's nice to know that I can get a replacement lamp at any car parts store, and since there's 2 H11's I won't be needing to carry a spare.

It came with a sport screen, and that's about worthless if you're going to do any serious miles. Looks nice, minimal protection.
I just installed the touring screen after the service, so I only have a little time with it, but it seems to be about the same as the 1150 touring screen, putting the wind right on my face shield. I'm used to the loud touring screen and always wear earplugs or headphone's when out of the city, so I don't care how loud it is. Maybe a laminar lip for it?
I'm not interested in any of the other touring screens out there that I've sen for, so this will have to do for now, at least until the Wudo fairing is available.
A cool thing about the screen in that both of them are only held on by 2 screws, so in theory you could change them out very quickly.

Here's a couple of pics:


First day
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Adding farkles...

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2nd Day, Iowa and back to Chicago-500 miles
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3rd day, Touring mode...

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Accessories DIY, farkel's, and mods completed report to follow...
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Post by AllanCook »

Congratulations and nice write-up. How do you like the touring screen?
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I'm twitching so hard I can barely type.
I'm awaiting mine which is expected to arrive in customs TODAY, also with white stripes so I agree - they rock.

I also took a test ride and decided to buy. I sold my '00 1100 RT intending to buy a used R1150R. Then the R12R came out and just like everyone else, the test ride sealed the deal.

I see three mandatory mods on this bike that I'm planning to do fairly quickly.

1) Re-coat the headers so they don't discolor. Have seen some recomendations for this place: http://www.performancecoatings.com/pci.html
2) add a rear hugger. Other threads in this forum are making me think this is the one: http://www.motorradzubehoer-hornig.de/? ... 1&art=1908
3) do something with that brake reservoir on the handle bar. Not sure if a black or chrome one will help - but it just sets off the look for me. Any suggestions here?[/url]
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The bag is a Bags-Connection "Engage" Quick-Lock Tankbag for SW-MOTECH Gascap Mounting System.
works great, and no ram mounts on my handlebars, good stuff.
The bag doesn't even touch the tank, so no worries about scratching it, ever.
Works great, very secure, quality materials, a raincover that works, good styling, etc....
I also have the optional GPS holder for my Streetpilot 2820, that also works great. Puts the GPS in a great place for viewing IMO. I installed the XM antenna on the bag, making things even easier for me, and it seem that the placement has no ill effect on the reception. Takes about 30 seconds to remove the whole setup


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Nice review and pictures. Welcome aboard.

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Your evil ChiTown! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Why did you have to post a review like this? The pics were bad enough. :P

All kidding aside, that was a great review, way better detail than the magz!

But now I'm going to have to test ride one when I go out to Iowa City May 4th. (and a K12R, and a F650GS, and a ...darn those candy stores!) Fortunately, or really unfortunately, my finances will not allow a purchase....yet.

Plus, my wife wants a Victory :shock: So I think that will have to come first!
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Post by r12r-don »

Hey ChiTown - I noticed you had the seat off. Seen any good paths to run an audio cable from a GPS on the handle bar to under the seat to connect with an autocomm? Possibly following the existing canbus cable with some zip ties?

I can't stop looking at your pics. Those stripes are AWESOME!!! They look even better in natural sunlight. I CANNOT WAIT - CALL THE PARAMEDICS...I NEED OXYGEN.

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Chi , So the touring screen is louder than the sport screen?

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Post by fly »

Nice writeup and great looking ride. I too love the stripes.
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r12r-don wrote:Hey ChiTown - I noticed you had the seat off. Seen any good paths to run an audio cable from a GPS on the handle bar to under the seat to connect with an autocomm? Possibly following the existing canbus cable with some zip ties?


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Yes, I ran all the wires on the shifter side of the bike. There's a nice path I used following other cables. The good news is I didn't have to remove the tank at all.
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celticus wrote:Chi , So the touring screen is louder than the sport screen?

Mark
Yes, but much needed protection for highway speeds. I feel the 1200R touring screen is similar to the 1150R touring screen, at least from the short, cold ride I had with it. It puts the wing about mid-faceshield. Maybe a laminar lip is all that's needed....
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Chi , How tall are you? I'd hate to think that a better not so bad looking solution is out there and I ignored it. On the other hand I'd hate to waste 300-400 $ on something I like no better than my sport screen. When the temps are fairly warm I think the sport shield serves me pretty well. I do love the looks of the Wudo and Wunderlich though.

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Re: First Thoughts....R1200R

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SInce it is my one year anniversary, I though I would bring this thread back from the dead. Kind of funny now reading what I first thought of this bike... Last night I took her out on the town, after a good wash and wax. :lol:
With over 32,500 mile on my 1200R now, it's safe to say I can't get enough of this bike. I love riding it enough that my car is up for sale and I'll be on two wheels only until November when I'll buy another car or move somewhere warmer...
This bike has taken me places I hadn't even dreamed of going, and keeps my imagination occupied thinking of when I'll end up this year on her.
I have had ZERO problems, amazing journeys, new friends made, and basically just a blast while riding my R, quite possibly the most well rounded bike ever.


Here's my most recent picture, and a few of my favorite's of where we went last year.


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More Deals Gap.

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International Bike Show Chicago

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Happy Anniversary! You are one person who gets their money's worth from their bike. =D>

Interested to know if there are any major discrepancies from your initial findings a year ago?
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bmwk100 wrote:Happy Anniversary! You are one person who gets their money's worth from their bike. =D>

Interested to know if there are any major discrepancies from your initial findings a year ago?
Nothing major, I still miss the Signal minder, and wish I had running lights, I still don't care too much if this one's dirty even though it really shows with the black, I like the turn signal buttons now that I'm used to them, an Airhawk took care of the seat discomfort, the OEM mirrors are just fine for me.
Really the only thing I don't like is the larger payment and having to go to work, and not just ride all :mrgreen: the time. At least now she's my daily driver, so going back and forth to work is fun since I never work in the same place and work crazy hours I tend to have a blast commuting, having roads to myself regularly at very early or late hours... Downtown Chicago is a blast at 5 am on a sunday with not a soul in sight... like my own race track.. :roll:
Besides being a great road bike, able to leave behind many a sport bike's in the twisties. The R has also proven to be very capable off-road, going places GS rider's have said they wouldn't dare, with some Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires on...
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Congrats on year one.Looks to have been a helluva a ride thus far!
You've definitely put it thru the ringer and proven it's durability. =D>
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