Just tried 1200R!!!

[Tom1150r]

After months of wanting a 1200GS, last week I saw the 1200R in the showroom. Already owning an 1150R and loving it, it naturally caught my attention. When comparing the two, I couldnt help feeling a bit passionless about the GS, whereas the R has that something extra (to me anyway). It recaptures that essence of beauty that a motorcycle must have.
So today I snuck out of work at lunch time and rode down there on my 1150R, and took a 1200R for a test ride. Wow! What a great bike. I have ridden many different bikes, (ducatis, Triumphs, Japs) and this has to be one of the best handling bikes I have ever ridden. I want one now! I have the deposit and permission from the wife so will order one by the end of the week. The only decision is what colour and what extras. I think black, with ESA and a computer, as well as a sports screen and heated grips.
The only thing I did notice, however, was that at low speed it was a little jittery. I suspect this was either me not being used to it (as the 1150R is very docile at low speeds), or a glitch with the fuel management sysytem. Anyone else noticed this or have any comments. I have to say it was fairly minor, and certainly not enough to put me off.

Tom.

[runeo]

Hi

I have done 1000 km with mine and 10000 km with my gsa. You can drive 50 km/h on sixth with passenger without problem with the gsa. For the R I tend to use fourth gear in the same situation.
Everything is 500 rpm higher up in the rpm range with the R.

I will cut down the screen to just a few cm over the instrument cluster, as it lifts the air and sends it at my helmet. The wind sound in the helmet is much lower without the screen!

best wishes
/Rune

[johno]

runeo, if you could only have one bike, would it be the GSA, or the R?
I often wonder what we would have if limited to one bike only.

[DAV-AZ]

Tom, I traded in my '05 R1200GS and picked up an R1200R. Am very pleased with my decision. Even though I live in Arizona and there are lots of dirt roads about, I was always afraid to ride the GS on them. Too heavy, large and expensive to drop for little ole me. The R is, in my opinion, a much better bike. More refined, more flickable, much faster/quicker. I find the R a terrific bike in town, not so much on the interstate because of lack of wind protection. For that I use the GT. Bottom line, in my opinion, for around town blasts the R is superior to the GS. Travelling between states, I'd use my GT, but the GS worked while I had it. Hope this helps.

[celticus]

Tom , I have never noticed any jitter in my new R1200R at all. Just a terrific bike.
I have the sport wideshield on mine and will replace it with something a little larger but all in all I have no complaints. This is the first "new" bike I have ever bought and I have no regrets what so ever. I love it. The wife tells me I look good on it too.

Mark

[AllanCook]

I've about 1K on mine. When I first picked it up, it did seem vibier than my R1150R, but I don't notice it at all now. The motor does rev slightly higher than the 1150, too, and it's a good deal torquier, so that may have had something to do with the initial jittery sensation. Of course, you may have been pretty excited, and that may also have contributed.

Be sure to check out fastest Granite Gray Metallic before you commit to black. I thought I wanted black, too, but when I saw that gray beauty, buddy that's all she wrote.

[ka5ysy]

The only thing I did notice, however, was that at low speed it was a little jittery. I suspect this was either me not being used to it (as the 1150R is very docile at low speeds), or a glitch with the fuel management sysytem. Anyone else noticed this or have any comments. I have to say it was fairly minor, and certainly not enough to put me off.

Tom.

Hi Tom:

I presently have 1000 miles on my RR and LOVE IT !.
On the "jittery throttle" actually it is probably just a learing curve for the bike. I noticed on the first ride I took on the bike before I bought it (at the end of the test ride!). I believe once you have a few miles on it, you get used to the very fast throttle response by smoothly rolling on the throttle. If you are not smooth, it seems jerky. It does not take a whole lot of throttle rotation to push you in the butt hard !

Did you happen to try the brakes? Run up to 55 and grab a hand full of brakes. Nothing but HUGE deceleration without any scary moments, and no fishtailing. This is a fine ABS system.

WARNING TO READERS: DO NOT RIDE THE BIKE IF YOU DONT WANT TO PURCHASE IT IMMEDIATELY !

[motorradguy]

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WARNING TO READERS: DO NOT RIDE THE BIKE IF YOU DONT WANT TO PURCHASE IT IMMEDIATELY ! [/quote]

AMEN to that! I took mine out for half an hour and rode it home 90 min later with a plate swap. The RR ROCKS!

[runeo]

runeo, if you could only have one bike, would it be the GSA, or the R?
I often wonder what we would have if limited to one bike only.

If I could only have one bike, it should be a HP2 with additional exchangeable, gastank, seat, aluboxes and wheels.

But I wont buy the HP2, as It is so expensive that I would have to trade in one of the GSA or R bikes to afford it. Instead I do the nest best and add an G650XChallange to the trojka of bikes.

In the end, the r1200r can do almost anything the 12gsa can do. Only with 600 RPM more!
BUT they are two wery strong personalities!

best wishes
/Rune

[ka5ysy]

[quote="runeo"]
In the end, the r1200r can do almost anything the 12gsa can do. Only with 600 RPM more!
BUT they are two wery strong personalities!
/Rune[/quote


+1. I was actually waiting to try out a 12GS with the new ABS system when I drove by the dealership and saw the RR roll out of the shop the day it arrived. After riding the RR and doing a fast evaluation of where I actually ride, the RR made a whole lot more sense.

I have actually taken the RR into some gravel roads with pretty deep gravel in places. It does the job when ridden dirt-bike style, standing on the pegs. Considering 95% of my riding, as well as the GS riders I know, is on-road, the RR is a better bike for me. Proper tool for the job !

Doug

[Tom1150r]

Thanks for all the replies. I have made the decision, and should have one within a few weeks! Cant wait.
Have to agree that best advice to anyone is do not try one unless you are going to buy it, because you will definitely want one straight after.
Guess I may have to change my user name!

[ka5ysy]

Thanks for all the replies. I have made the decision, and should have one within a few weeks! Cant wait.
Have to agree that best advice to anyone is do not try one unless you are going to buy it, because you will definitely want one straight after.
Guess I may have to change my user name!

As the Vstrom collective people say,

"You have been assimilated; resistance is futile !"

Welcome to the light side of the force !

[Racegun]

GOOD INFO and thx to all!

Also, ka5ysy, you got my bike!.....
thats ok, when I get mine we can go ride



dave in lafayette

[ka5ysy]

GOOD INFO and thx to all!

Also, ka5ysy, you got my bike!.....
thats ok, when I get mine we can go ride



dave in lafayette

Were you on the waiting list to see/ride it? Yep... we need to make a run when yours comes in.

Check out the picture thread for photos.

Doug

[GTR350cc]

Lots of owners of many BMW's in the newer model lines report various off throttle jerkiness, jitters at low throttle and similar symptoms of an engine management/fuel injection related nature. I am beginning to wonder if the sophistication of the units coupled with EU3 and US fuel variations has something to do with it that defeats the software engineers' best efforts to keep up or to account for all the variation in fuel types.

[BCC]

Lots of owners of many BMW's in the newer model lines report various off throttle jerkiness, jitters at low throttle and similar symptoms of an engine management/fuel injection related nature. I am beginning to wonder if the sophistication of the units coupled with EU3 and US fuel variations has something to do with it that defeats the software engineers' best efforts to keep up or to account for all the variation in fuel types.

From what I can see, the majority of the folks with symtoms of throttle jerkiness are coming from older bikes (like a KRS to a KS). Higher performance engines in lighter bikes are more sensitive to rider input, especially on/off throttle adjustments. Late model bmw's are pussycats compared to things like rc51's or some of the higher performance 600's or 1000's.

There were some issues with some of the early 2005 KS's, but except for isolated cases, that's it. For any rider used to a variety of modern bikes, the R12R is a a very easy bike to ride. While it might take a week or so for less experienced or older rider to adapt to a relatively higher performance engine, it's worth it, imo.

I had a heck of a time being smooth the first week I got my rc-51, but I soon got better.

[socalrob]

I have found the hex head boxers - R1200ST, R1200RT, R1200GS & R1200R, that I have test riden to all be very smooth & easy to modulate on the throttle. Smoother than my twinspark R1150R.

[celticus]

Before my R1200R i rode a 98 K1200RS. now THAT had abrupt throttle on/off. Several times it caused mine and my passenger's helmets to bang together.
Mark