This website is a military photo chatboard of a Russian website designer's tour of North Korea who took many unauthorized pics. There's no way you can look at these few dozen pics he posted and come to any favorable conclusion about the effects of a Communist regime . . . this one under Kim jun mentally ill.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... hp?t=82755
Note to self: Cross North Korea off future vacation destinations.
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A colleague of mine went to South Korea a couple years ago and had nothing but good things to say. Crazy what 50 years under differing systems of govenment will do. I'd think China would be in a similar dire straites (sp??) if not for the vast resources of people and land to draw from. Staving off the inevitable tho?? time will tell.
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You are correct, but China is very close to running out of those land resources at an alarming rate due to the massive amount of people. They are getting closer to that state every day. What worries me is that they have their eye on Tiwan and if they get ahold of it then the world is going to have big trouble. Because they will have resources enough to be the world superpower and I don't believe that our government nor our allies will let that happen. (You know what that means)rph802 wrote:A I'd think China would be in a similar dire straites (sp??) if not for the vast resources of people and land to draw from. Staving off the inevitable tho?? time will tell.
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Andy:
You being banned doesn't ring true for me either. My impression is that Doug tolerates the Playhouse but basically leaves it alone.
As one who jousted with you in there a few times I cannot believe your postings would stand out as extreme in either tone or content. I agree with the others. Give Doug a note and find out the basis for not being allowed into the Playhouse.
You being banned doesn't ring true for me either. My impression is that Doug tolerates the Playhouse but basically leaves it alone.
As one who jousted with you in there a few times I cannot believe your postings would stand out as extreme in either tone or content. I agree with the others. Give Doug a note and find out the basis for not being allowed into the Playhouse.
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Thanks Rob, nice link and pictures. I spent 13 months in south Korea from Dec.1975 to late Dec.76 serving in the army. When I arrived in country I was pulled out of the group I landed with and asked if I had any interest in a "special assignment". I wound up living the life of a "Security Guard" at the truce village of Pan Mun Jom for my tour. I actually walked the ground in some of those pictures in the link daily. They withdrew the UN multiforce component from the area a few years back and now only have ROC and KPA troops manning the checkpoints. Those were interesting times we lived in then (An old chinese curse) and for a skinny 18 year old private from noplace Indiana, as exotic as can be. Interestingly, many of the village pictures of the north reminded me of the villages of the south 30 years ago. I remember sitting for hours in the checkpoints looking out north over the DMZ and wondering what it was like and would I ever see those places. Over the years, a few (3 or 4) US solders I guess succumed to the urge and"went north" in search of answers. God have mercy on them as they no doubt spent their fair share of time in hell. We had Swiss and Swedish diplomats around that were really cool and could go any where they wanted. They would tell us about what was over the next hill and a little about how the North Koreans lived, but they had to be circumspect. Well, thanks to the internet, we now have a glimps of what is hidden. I hope and pray in my lifetime the north korean government will collapse and set it's people free, and with only a wimper and not a war. Coy
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Thank you, Rob.
On this great day of the birth of the United States of America, your posting of photos from North Korea make me more greatful than ever for how lucky I am to live in this country.
It was nothing more than amazing timing and a lot of dumb luck that I was born an American.
Thank you to *all* of those who have served in the United States military. It is because of you that we are here.
On this great day of the birth of the United States of America, your posting of photos from North Korea make me more greatful than ever for how lucky I am to live in this country.
It was nothing more than amazing timing and a lot of dumb luck that I was born an American.
Thank you to *all* of those who have served in the United States military. It is because of you that we are here.
"Get a life". Kinda hostile.
Actually I spent three weeks in Kenya in December 04-January 05 and I saw that poverty. The most depressing thing I saw was in a town called Thika. There were these street children sitting in the middle of a roundabout cooking scraps of food over an open fire. Some were crippled and all were wearing rags. There were even a couple of goats eating the trash around them.
One of the kids came up to me and said "Mzungu, kito kidogo". (White man, something little). She was carrying another sick child on her back. I gave her all of the change from my pocket but knew that it wouldn't make much of a difference...
It was so strange to see huge estates surrounded by stone walls topped by razor wire, while just outside entire families would be living in a shack made from nothing more than four sticks and trash bags.
I know first hand that there are worse places to live than North Korea. But none of that changes the fact that I am greatful to be an American citizen.
Actually I spent three weeks in Kenya in December 04-January 05 and I saw that poverty. The most depressing thing I saw was in a town called Thika. There were these street children sitting in the middle of a roundabout cooking scraps of food over an open fire. Some were crippled and all were wearing rags. There were even a couple of goats eating the trash around them.
One of the kids came up to me and said "Mzungu, kito kidogo". (White man, something little). She was carrying another sick child on her back. I gave her all of the change from my pocket but knew that it wouldn't make much of a difference...
It was so strange to see huge estates surrounded by stone walls topped by razor wire, while just outside entire families would be living in a shack made from nothing more than four sticks and trash bags.
I know first hand that there are worse places to live than North Korea. But none of that changes the fact that I am greatful to be an American citizen.
Re: The benefits of Communism . . .
Many of those photos remind me of conditions in South Korea during the late 1950's when I did my 13 month tour of duty. We were still being armed with weapons and ammo and expecting the North to invade at any time.CycleRob wrote:This website is a military photo chatboard of a Russian website designer's tour of North Korea who took many unauthorized pics. There's no way you can look at these few dozen pics he posted and come to any favorable conclusion about the effects of a Communist regime . . . this one under Kim jun mentally ill.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... hp?t=82755
Note to self: Cross North Korea off future vacation destinations.
For anyone who may be interested in the immediate post war years and the young men who served there, here's a link to photos of Camp Coiner, Seoul South Korea (304 Signal Bn)--taken in 1956......
http://home.comcast.net/~jvmitchell59/korea/lerza-b/
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejvmitchell59 ... plinter-p/
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A few reasons why I am glad to be a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, from the current Norton Owners Journal, spelling errors are not mine:-
Found this in the MAY 2006 issue of CLASSIC BIKE.
Britain,
the greatest place on earth to own a classic because:
1. We have the perfect balance of seasons: spring, summer & autumn to
ride in and winter to fix whatever broke, wore out or fell off.
Californians and Eskimos don't get this.
2. We regard oil leaks as badges of honour.
3. We can keep Italian classics running in conditions which, by all
rights, ought to make them disolve.
4. Acre for acre we have more men in brown coats who can repair
things, than anywhere else in the world.
5. We have Dave Silver, the worlds best Honda spares source.
6. It's better to relax after a summer's ride with a pint than an
espresso.
7. We have free road tax for pre-73 bikes. What a pity they didn't
keep the rolling 25 year rule.
8. Auntie Carole (and others) insure old bikes for peanuts.
9. We store motorcycles in our garages and cars on the street.
10. We make Hammerite and Swarfega.
11. We still use the word "Imperial" when refering to measurrements.
12. Taking any classic out of the country requires a sea voyage,
adding to the sense of adventure.
13. This is where nearly all classic bikes come from, and we can still
get the spares.
14. People here instinctively smile at the sound of an approaching
single or twin.
15. Distance here is still measured in miles.
16. We have the free-est laws governing the use of classic vehicles of
anywhere in the EU. You can even drive an old tank in the UK, if you
want. In countries like Begium, vehicles with old brakes and lights are
only allowed on the roads in classic parades.
17. You can ride your Brit bike back to the place where it was made.
We're the only country in the world capable of turning a place like
Birmingham into a tourist destination.
18. It's the home of the autojumble, the best place to buy parts for
an: ABC, Aberdale, Abington, ABJ, Ackland, Acme, Advance, AEL, AEouls,
AER, Airolite, Ajax, AJS, AJR, AJW, AKD, Akkens, Alecto, Alert,
Ariel....
19. The Enclosures Act of 1839 created the heaven-sent phenomenon of
the roadside hedge, or dry stone wall. See the Cambridgeshire fens for
might otherwise have been.
20. The unbelievable antiquity of our minor roads system, which dates
back at least 1500 years and means that you can get lost within half an
hour of home. Pity the Baharainians and Qataris. Money can't buy you
everything, effendi.
21. There are four guys in Lincolnshire alone who make a living
working on Vincents.
22. The speed cameras are set to catch people doing 63 MPH or more,
which need not apply to us.
23. You are never more than 100 miles from the seaside.
24. We invented bikes called Alldays,and Onioins, Brough Superior, OK
Supreme, Rex-Acme, Velocette and....
25. Where you go you will meet someone who once hada bike like yours,
or built one.
26. There are club races, motocross and trials going on each weekenc.
27. We used to go on family holidays in sidecar combinations.
28. This is the birthplace of Hailwood and Sheene, the most
charismatic racers in the world (Valentine Rossi comes close, and he
lives in London).
29. We have Cadwell Park: home of the Beezumph Rally, the Morini
Riders' Club trackday and, if we can raise the cash, the CB Burn up. If
God designed race tracks with Carlsberg as draftsmen.....
30. The Stafford Show. A heady mix of rust, old oil and cow dung.
31. Heroic MoT testers. Find one that understands Brit bikes, don't
extract the Michael and you never need fail again.
32. British bikes were made for Britain's roads, short on straights
and long on bends. This is where they work best.
33. We have the Ace Caffe and Seventies Day and so what if the North
Circular is jammed.
34. You just never know what you are going to get; a rainy morning
might just turn into a beautiful day.
35. Nowhere else in the world has fish and chips shops in remore rural
villages.
36. The fried breakfast, and cobblers to healthy eating.
37. In a day you can go from mountains to fens, even on a bike that's
a bit flat and over the hill!
38. There is still a chance that one day you move into a house and
find a Brough Superior in the cellar.
39. We invented mods and rockers and there was a ton up cafe in every
town.
40. You are always close to a friendly eccentric with a load of bikes
and a well equipped workshop.
41. Bikes work best when the air is damp.
42. There is (so far) that prevents you from riding around on anything
from a 1898 Werner to a Honda six, wherever and whenever you like.
43. Since Victorian times Britain has been a nation of antique lovers
and as a result it has the largest classic vehicle scene in the world.
44. It has the Isle of Man, where lives motorcycling's soul.
45. You can still find a tool shop that knows what a Whiworth spanner
is
46. With so many dangerous corners and stone walls we have more near
misses than any other nationality.
47. Where ever you break down, you are never far from a pub.
48. Britain is neither too big (as in Canada) nor too small (Isle of
Wight), nor too uniform (Belarus). It is, in fact, exactly the right
size, shape and consistancy to make any ride a potentially new and
beautiful one, for up to 80 years. And you can't ask for more than
that.
Found this in the MAY 2006 issue of CLASSIC BIKE.
Britain,
the greatest place on earth to own a classic because:
1. We have the perfect balance of seasons: spring, summer & autumn to
ride in and winter to fix whatever broke, wore out or fell off.
Californians and Eskimos don't get this.
2. We regard oil leaks as badges of honour.
3. We can keep Italian classics running in conditions which, by all
rights, ought to make them disolve.
4. Acre for acre we have more men in brown coats who can repair
things, than anywhere else in the world.
5. We have Dave Silver, the worlds best Honda spares source.
6. It's better to relax after a summer's ride with a pint than an
espresso.
7. We have free road tax for pre-73 bikes. What a pity they didn't
keep the rolling 25 year rule.
8. Auntie Carole (and others) insure old bikes for peanuts.
9. We store motorcycles in our garages and cars on the street.
10. We make Hammerite and Swarfega.
11. We still use the word "Imperial" when refering to measurrements.
12. Taking any classic out of the country requires a sea voyage,
adding to the sense of adventure.
13. This is where nearly all classic bikes come from, and we can still
get the spares.
14. People here instinctively smile at the sound of an approaching
single or twin.
15. Distance here is still measured in miles.
16. We have the free-est laws governing the use of classic vehicles of
anywhere in the EU. You can even drive an old tank in the UK, if you
want. In countries like Begium, vehicles with old brakes and lights are
only allowed on the roads in classic parades.
17. You can ride your Brit bike back to the place where it was made.
We're the only country in the world capable of turning a place like
Birmingham into a tourist destination.
18. It's the home of the autojumble, the best place to buy parts for
an: ABC, Aberdale, Abington, ABJ, Ackland, Acme, Advance, AEL, AEouls,
AER, Airolite, Ajax, AJS, AJR, AJW, AKD, Akkens, Alecto, Alert,
Ariel....
19. The Enclosures Act of 1839 created the heaven-sent phenomenon of
the roadside hedge, or dry stone wall. See the Cambridgeshire fens for
might otherwise have been.
20. The unbelievable antiquity of our minor roads system, which dates
back at least 1500 years and means that you can get lost within half an
hour of home. Pity the Baharainians and Qataris. Money can't buy you
everything, effendi.
21. There are four guys in Lincolnshire alone who make a living
working on Vincents.
22. The speed cameras are set to catch people doing 63 MPH or more,
which need not apply to us.
23. You are never more than 100 miles from the seaside.
24. We invented bikes called Alldays,and Onioins, Brough Superior, OK
Supreme, Rex-Acme, Velocette and....
25. Where you go you will meet someone who once hada bike like yours,
or built one.
26. There are club races, motocross and trials going on each weekenc.
27. We used to go on family holidays in sidecar combinations.
28. This is the birthplace of Hailwood and Sheene, the most
charismatic racers in the world (Valentine Rossi comes close, and he
lives in London).
29. We have Cadwell Park: home of the Beezumph Rally, the Morini
Riders' Club trackday and, if we can raise the cash, the CB Burn up. If
God designed race tracks with Carlsberg as draftsmen.....
30. The Stafford Show. A heady mix of rust, old oil and cow dung.
31. Heroic MoT testers. Find one that understands Brit bikes, don't
extract the Michael and you never need fail again.
32. British bikes were made for Britain's roads, short on straights
and long on bends. This is where they work best.
33. We have the Ace Caffe and Seventies Day and so what if the North
Circular is jammed.
34. You just never know what you are going to get; a rainy morning
might just turn into a beautiful day.
35. Nowhere else in the world has fish and chips shops in remore rural
villages.
36. The fried breakfast, and cobblers to healthy eating.
37. In a day you can go from mountains to fens, even on a bike that's
a bit flat and over the hill!
38. There is still a chance that one day you move into a house and
find a Brough Superior in the cellar.
39. We invented mods and rockers and there was a ton up cafe in every
town.
40. You are always close to a friendly eccentric with a load of bikes
and a well equipped workshop.
41. Bikes work best when the air is damp.
42. There is (so far) that prevents you from riding around on anything
from a 1898 Werner to a Honda six, wherever and whenever you like.
43. Since Victorian times Britain has been a nation of antique lovers
and as a result it has the largest classic vehicle scene in the world.
44. It has the Isle of Man, where lives motorcycling's soul.
45. You can still find a tool shop that knows what a Whiworth spanner
is
46. With so many dangerous corners and stone walls we have more near
misses than any other nationality.
47. Where ever you break down, you are never far from a pub.
48. Britain is neither too big (as in Canada) nor too small (Isle of
Wight), nor too uniform (Belarus). It is, in fact, exactly the right
size, shape and consistancy to make any ride a potentially new and
beautiful one, for up to 80 years. And you can't ask for more than
that.
2002 black 180 degree single spark V twin