ARKANSAS IN AUTUMN '07 - Mini Bash Report
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Nice slideshow, Phil. Great music, too.
I think for our next Bash of any sort, we should start up a collection and fly DJ over here to enjoy it with us. Surely we could scrounge up a bike for him - somebody must have two! Whattaya think, DJ?
I think for our next Bash of any sort, we should start up a collection and fly DJ over here to enjoy it with us. Surely we could scrounge up a bike for him - somebody must have two! Whattaya think, DJ?
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Great photos everyone. Wish I was there
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If you like me find Phil's slideshow too fast to really look at the photos, I suggest watching it first at full speed to enjoy the show and music and then watch again clicking your mouse on the scroll dot below the slideshow - that way you can study each photo for as long as you like.
Thanks for putting that show together Phil
If you like me find Phil's slideshow too fast to really look at the photos, I suggest watching it first at full speed to enjoy the show and music and then watch again clicking your mouse on the scroll dot below the slideshow - that way you can study each photo for as long as you like.
Thanks for putting that show together Phil
- CycleRob
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After going to sleep Wednesday nite at 12:30 am and waking up 3.5 hours later, I was wide awake - - - - so I filled the cooler with food, jumped in the fully loaded truck and left home. Amazingly, I had no trouble staying awake the 10 hours and 41 minutes for the whole 728 mile trip. I was psyched. My new Garmin Zumo 450 showed me the way thru it all. The British female voice politely guided me from my house right to the Motel parking lot.
Right after I unpacked & unloaded the bike and greeted the Thursday arrivals OU812, GypsyRR, LadyBeemer, machew01 and NoRRmad I decided to use the 3 hours or so of daylite left to do the "extra" work items preplanned for GypsyRR's bike. They were to be tacked onto the end of her Sunday's 18K Service Tech Session . . . . and may not have had time to do. Specifically, relocate the charcoal canister to under the fueltank -and- replace the plastic QD's with metal ones and all 8 fuel clamps with the genuine BMW bolt&nut SS type. Good thing we did those ops then.
As luck would have it, GypsyRR had just filled the fueltank, not knowing of my rescheduled canister relocate plans. As luck would have it, I had an empty 6 gallon gas can I used to stockpile lower State taxed fuel on my truck trips down & back. The bike's fuel siphoned out while we removed the oil coolers and the canister. When I went to separate the plastic QD's the first one BROKE!!! The same place mine did when I last took them apart. All it took was the exact same destructive force you have used on a wavy Ruffles potato chip as it snapped in the onion dip. Just that easy. Replacing the QD's was very difficult reusing the existing fuel lines w/o shortening them. The canister relocate went well with the usual mid job plan changes. Darkness had already set in as you have seen in the pics of Mr Liberty, BiffsR holding the torch.
OK. Nobody seems willing to relay any details about our host and other group members, so here's the truth. Over the past few months GypsyRR and I have developed an out-of-state brother/sister relationship thru PM's, E-Mails and then phone calls to resolve many Bash details, bike advice and new vehicle choices. Over time and at the Bash I learned that she is annoyingly camera shy, genuinely considerate, extremely generous, gadget savvy, practically fearless, totally independent, has unfaltering determination and is absolutely fanatical about "getting the (camera) shot" or taking care of her bikes. As some of the attendees already know, she has a really nice laugh/giggle and prefers completing her work or riding the bike over drinking or chumming with the guys. She is NOT on-the-prowl or the slightest bit of a tease, despite her genetic assets and tasteful dress code. As a rider, I watched her start her bike, snick it into 1st, and in one smooth motion hit the gas, let out the clutch and put both feet on the pegs . . . . darting out 10 feet then banking quickly left around the parked cars like a 10 year riding pro. That was just in the Motel parking lot!! Just enough throttle, just enough RPM's, just the right clutch lockup. Out on the road the sharp curves, that I really like, slow her down a little like you would expect with her only 2 years of riding experience, but maybe she's just ordinary and the Roadster can make heroes out of ordinary riders.
Number 2 and huge with the behind-the-scenes action at the Bash is Boxermania. His near Darth Vader voice (with the Ricky Ricardo heavy Cuban accent) has the ability to take charge of meetings and make waitresses smile. We go back to Bash #1, where he was my roomie. When we talk technical, he can finish my sentences and add to that. We know EFI systems degrees of complexity and he took the time to really screw around with his by changing the fuel pressure regulator, IAT sensor and injector pulse duration. Taking things apart is what we do. Sometimes he gets in my hair, but makes a good double checker inspector. His generosity at this Bash was substantial and unmatched. I just used my special gift from him to lazer dot read the temps of my 5 rain barrels @ 54degF after last nites hard freeze. Bringing his white 911 Boxer engined KrautCar to the Bash was good thinking. We raced him a short distance on the back roads after a coincidental meeting. Passing power we jumped in his trunk. Speeds over 90 . . . . . he had more nerve and 2 more tires. Thanks Al for all you have done. We'll talk.
At the restaurant Thursday nite I was pleasantly surprised by LadyBeemer's Scottish accent and Meryl Streep like peaceful serenity. It's a joy to be around people like that, especially women. She reminded me of my wonderful wife Ann and the previous GF from 1983. Even though she spoke English, it was difficult to understand over the band playing and customer conversations. Too bad she had to leave before the group rides began.
On the group ride Friday, 7 riders that started out split to 5 + 2 and went our separate ways. The good thing is that there are NO bad roads in that region. My 9 On-Bike videos I made span a half hours riding in which you'll see very few cars, amazing roads & no houses. Just about every pic you see about this Bash will have a clear blue sky and pleasant temps. We spent 10 minutes talking to a trucker at a gas stop that was hose washing his Freightliner tractor. Man, did we get lots of information during the whole groups participation! The people everywhere were very friendly and hospitable. Motorcycles are considered cool and very popular there.
Saturday's group ride was great. We took turns leading the group (fast) on roads that were new to us all. Old guy RBRider on his Rockster is smooth and really fast without having a death wish. My riding buddy and phone tag friend, the Nick Nolte sound-alike OU812 could wrestle that K1200LT like it was a R1200RT. We rode every mile for 2 days together and you cannot believe what that Light Truck is capable of!!! It's just like the BMW commercial and magazine ads say: A cruise missile that really handles. He downed a SubWay foot long sandwich with the works, including several Halyapeneo peppers, before I could finish a sentence. Veteran from all-the-Bashes-rider and all around funny guy BiffsR has tremendously improved his riding skills so that he not only doesn't hold up the group any more, he can scare some of the riders trying to follow. Always smiling and laughing.
The 18K mile service Tech Session on Sunday drew only 2 people because most everybody had to be home Monday or knew they cannot/will not do the servicing chore. At the start, we bled the brakes first. The fluid in there wasn't bad at all since BMW changed it. The rear brake was a little worse, but still not troubling . We were unable to bleed the clutch because one of the cover screws was completely chewed out, as if a cordless drill powered tool went wild tightening it. For the valve adjustment, I started at the beginning of 4-stroke engine basics. We found and marked TDC on the pulley, then turned the engine while watching the valves slowly open&close. GypsyRR & NoRRmad watched how the overlap stroke lasted almost 90 degrees crankshaft rotation, indicative of a high performance engine. They saw the light about the difference between the 2 TDC positions and visualized with me the six moving/mating surfaces involved in each camlobe-2-valve multi part mechanism. This had to be learned and understood, otherwise you are blindly going thru a series of steps without an awareness that they are correct or even if they are in order. They watched as I did the first adjustments using the tools correctly, then gradually joined in the doing. Since NoRRmad had valve adjustment experiences, she was the star pupil ad worked on the right cylinder alone with only coaching. The TB synch was real easy and my old boxfan plugged directly into an outside outlet right where her bike was parked!! My 50 foot extension cord was not needed. The green dyed water differential manometer I made showed her bike had considerable errors at idle and on throttle. She took many pics of this for another posting. Adjusting the BBAS idle screws you could actually HEAR the engine smooth out to a symphony when the water columns equalized. Not as noticeable with the on-throttle setting and it took 4 readjustment "trys" to get it right. You cannot beat the low cost and extreme accuracy of that water manometer!! I tried oils in it but dyed water works best. You do need to use the hose folded shut at start-up precaution to prevent water ingestion if the synch is too far off. Afterward I installed the new camchain tensioner in NoRRmad's OilHead. He noted it took longer than my promised 5 minutes, but it came apart the first time as it was inserted and had to be awkwardly removed for reassembly. It took about 8 minutes until the torque wrench clicked. Craig, I know you are enjoying the quiet now.
Overall, I didn't get much sleep and my puffy, distorted more than usual face showed it. I didn't eat much either. Thursday nite's supper was a surplus PBJ sandwich and milk I brought with me, consumed in my room before going out. I rode more than any 2 other Beakster Bashes, in perfect weather, with friends new and old, on CLEAN, deserted roads that were made for motorcycles and the nuts that ride them.
On a 10 scale I give it a 9.5
See my Ozark album here:
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... ces/Ozark/
Right after I unpacked & unloaded the bike and greeted the Thursday arrivals OU812, GypsyRR, LadyBeemer, machew01 and NoRRmad I decided to use the 3 hours or so of daylite left to do the "extra" work items preplanned for GypsyRR's bike. They were to be tacked onto the end of her Sunday's 18K Service Tech Session . . . . and may not have had time to do. Specifically, relocate the charcoal canister to under the fueltank -and- replace the plastic QD's with metal ones and all 8 fuel clamps with the genuine BMW bolt&nut SS type. Good thing we did those ops then.
As luck would have it, GypsyRR had just filled the fueltank, not knowing of my rescheduled canister relocate plans. As luck would have it, I had an empty 6 gallon gas can I used to stockpile lower State taxed fuel on my truck trips down & back. The bike's fuel siphoned out while we removed the oil coolers and the canister. When I went to separate the plastic QD's the first one BROKE!!! The same place mine did when I last took them apart. All it took was the exact same destructive force you have used on a wavy Ruffles potato chip as it snapped in the onion dip. Just that easy. Replacing the QD's was very difficult reusing the existing fuel lines w/o shortening them. The canister relocate went well with the usual mid job plan changes. Darkness had already set in as you have seen in the pics of Mr Liberty, BiffsR holding the torch.
OK. Nobody seems willing to relay any details about our host and other group members, so here's the truth. Over the past few months GypsyRR and I have developed an out-of-state brother/sister relationship thru PM's, E-Mails and then phone calls to resolve many Bash details, bike advice and new vehicle choices. Over time and at the Bash I learned that she is annoyingly camera shy, genuinely considerate, extremely generous, gadget savvy, practically fearless, totally independent, has unfaltering determination and is absolutely fanatical about "getting the (camera) shot" or taking care of her bikes. As some of the attendees already know, she has a really nice laugh/giggle and prefers completing her work or riding the bike over drinking or chumming with the guys. She is NOT on-the-prowl or the slightest bit of a tease, despite her genetic assets and tasteful dress code. As a rider, I watched her start her bike, snick it into 1st, and in one smooth motion hit the gas, let out the clutch and put both feet on the pegs . . . . darting out 10 feet then banking quickly left around the parked cars like a 10 year riding pro. That was just in the Motel parking lot!! Just enough throttle, just enough RPM's, just the right clutch lockup. Out on the road the sharp curves, that I really like, slow her down a little like you would expect with her only 2 years of riding experience, but maybe she's just ordinary and the Roadster can make heroes out of ordinary riders.
Number 2 and huge with the behind-the-scenes action at the Bash is Boxermania. His near Darth Vader voice (with the Ricky Ricardo heavy Cuban accent) has the ability to take charge of meetings and make waitresses smile. We go back to Bash #1, where he was my roomie. When we talk technical, he can finish my sentences and add to that. We know EFI systems degrees of complexity and he took the time to really screw around with his by changing the fuel pressure regulator, IAT sensor and injector pulse duration. Taking things apart is what we do. Sometimes he gets in my hair, but makes a good double checker inspector. His generosity at this Bash was substantial and unmatched. I just used my special gift from him to lazer dot read the temps of my 5 rain barrels @ 54degF after last nites hard freeze. Bringing his white 911 Boxer engined KrautCar to the Bash was good thinking. We raced him a short distance on the back roads after a coincidental meeting. Passing power we jumped in his trunk. Speeds over 90 . . . . . he had more nerve and 2 more tires. Thanks Al for all you have done. We'll talk.
At the restaurant Thursday nite I was pleasantly surprised by LadyBeemer's Scottish accent and Meryl Streep like peaceful serenity. It's a joy to be around people like that, especially women. She reminded me of my wonderful wife Ann and the previous GF from 1983. Even though she spoke English, it was difficult to understand over the band playing and customer conversations. Too bad she had to leave before the group rides began.
On the group ride Friday, 7 riders that started out split to 5 + 2 and went our separate ways. The good thing is that there are NO bad roads in that region. My 9 On-Bike videos I made span a half hours riding in which you'll see very few cars, amazing roads & no houses. Just about every pic you see about this Bash will have a clear blue sky and pleasant temps. We spent 10 minutes talking to a trucker at a gas stop that was hose washing his Freightliner tractor. Man, did we get lots of information during the whole groups participation! The people everywhere were very friendly and hospitable. Motorcycles are considered cool and very popular there.
Saturday's group ride was great. We took turns leading the group (fast) on roads that were new to us all. Old guy RBRider on his Rockster is smooth and really fast without having a death wish. My riding buddy and phone tag friend, the Nick Nolte sound-alike OU812 could wrestle that K1200LT like it was a R1200RT. We rode every mile for 2 days together and you cannot believe what that Light Truck is capable of!!! It's just like the BMW commercial and magazine ads say: A cruise missile that really handles. He downed a SubWay foot long sandwich with the works, including several Halyapeneo peppers, before I could finish a sentence. Veteran from all-the-Bashes-rider and all around funny guy BiffsR has tremendously improved his riding skills so that he not only doesn't hold up the group any more, he can scare some of the riders trying to follow. Always smiling and laughing.
The 18K mile service Tech Session on Sunday drew only 2 people because most everybody had to be home Monday or knew they cannot/will not do the servicing chore. At the start, we bled the brakes first. The fluid in there wasn't bad at all since BMW changed it. The rear brake was a little worse, but still not troubling . We were unable to bleed the clutch because one of the cover screws was completely chewed out, as if a cordless drill powered tool went wild tightening it. For the valve adjustment, I started at the beginning of 4-stroke engine basics. We found and marked TDC on the pulley, then turned the engine while watching the valves slowly open&close. GypsyRR & NoRRmad watched how the overlap stroke lasted almost 90 degrees crankshaft rotation, indicative of a high performance engine. They saw the light about the difference between the 2 TDC positions and visualized with me the six moving/mating surfaces involved in each camlobe-2-valve multi part mechanism. This had to be learned and understood, otherwise you are blindly going thru a series of steps without an awareness that they are correct or even if they are in order. They watched as I did the first adjustments using the tools correctly, then gradually joined in the doing. Since NoRRmad had valve adjustment experiences, she was the star pupil ad worked on the right cylinder alone with only coaching. The TB synch was real easy and my old boxfan plugged directly into an outside outlet right where her bike was parked!! My 50 foot extension cord was not needed. The green dyed water differential manometer I made showed her bike had considerable errors at idle and on throttle. She took many pics of this for another posting. Adjusting the BBAS idle screws you could actually HEAR the engine smooth out to a symphony when the water columns equalized. Not as noticeable with the on-throttle setting and it took 4 readjustment "trys" to get it right. You cannot beat the low cost and extreme accuracy of that water manometer!! I tried oils in it but dyed water works best. You do need to use the hose folded shut at start-up precaution to prevent water ingestion if the synch is too far off. Afterward I installed the new camchain tensioner in NoRRmad's OilHead. He noted it took longer than my promised 5 minutes, but it came apart the first time as it was inserted and had to be awkwardly removed for reassembly. It took about 8 minutes until the torque wrench clicked. Craig, I know you are enjoying the quiet now.
Overall, I didn't get much sleep and my puffy, distorted more than usual face showed it. I didn't eat much either. Thursday nite's supper was a surplus PBJ sandwich and milk I brought with me, consumed in my room before going out. I rode more than any 2 other Beakster Bashes, in perfect weather, with friends new and old, on CLEAN, deserted roads that were made for motorcycles and the nuts that ride them.
On a 10 scale I give it a 9.5
See my Ozark album here:
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... ces/Ozark/
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DJ Downunder
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Rob, I think, omitted the negative aspects of our Bash intentionally not to blemish an otherwise perfect Bash. I have also only mentioned what happened briefly and with one photo of my wife's bruised leg in the slideshow.
Let me fill in the gaps here. Friday morning we all awoke to mildly cool temps and everyone bustling about getting ready to head up the mountain for breakfast at the Cliff House. Sparky and I hurriedly got dressed and geared up for our "last-in-line" departure. Al in his little white car and Buddy on his GS were behind us and we took off after the main group had left just a few minutes earlier.
I noticed immediately that I would need the heated grips and while riding casually up Hwy 23 I wondered if Sparky knew how to even turn on her heated grips and this worried me that her fingers would freeze with less than optimum protection with her thin gloves.
We wound up 23 and began those crooked and steep curves with no problems except going pretty slow. Buddy zipped around us all and left us behind to join the group sooner up ahead.
When we came to the double, 10 mph, uphill switchbacks I had become more confident of her skills since we had already gone around several tight turns at a moderate to slow pace. I made the turn and headed up the hill watching in my mirror as she came around behind me. I saw her go wide on the turn and disappear from view behind me and almost immediately heard Al's horn blasting for me to stop. I had already stopped and was dismounting the bike when Norrmad also came up from behind us. Another rider on a Kawasaki bike also stopped to help and by the time I made it the 50 yerds or so down the hill they were attempting to lift the bike off her leg. I assisted in that effort and we all were trying to calm her as she was crying and worrying about damaging the bike!
We were able to help her into Al's car, where she sat for a moment while we got the bike out of the ditch and I pushed it to the paved parking area on the curcve while Al proceeded to turn his car around while Norrmad flagged traffic. Several people stopped to help or offer to phone for help. We thanked them and they headed on up the hill.
Al made his way back down 23 to Ozark where there was a small hospital emergency room.
I rode my bike back and passed them to go find the hospital, etc. ahead of them. I got her situated in the emergency room and left Al to sit with her as I hurriedly retrieved the truck at the motel and went to pick up the other bike.
The doctors and nurses did thier jobs well and x-rayed her leg then the doctor did a thorough physical exam of the knee and lower leg. No fractures but a really bad hematoma was the diagnosis.
Sparky sat in the motel room drawing for the remainder of the Bash with ice on her leg and ingesting a really good pain killer every so often.
I want to tell you, I was impressed by the caring attitudes of all the Bash attendeed as they filed through visiting the convalescent patient in the motel room.
Thanks to all for that. It really helped her to keep a good attitude about the whole thing.
She says she understands what happened and its simply a matter of not having enough riding time under her belt. As she approached the curve her speed got way too slow and she was in a high gear. As she tried to accelerate into a lean and pull up the hill, she couldn't go anywhere fast so the bake came up and she went too wide into the ditch.
Today, the leg looks a lot worse with bruise spreading out, but it feels better she says.
I have to replace the two turn signal housings and one little mirror connector on the left side. That's it except for a few scratches on the paint.
Again, thanks to all who helped.
Let me fill in the gaps here. Friday morning we all awoke to mildly cool temps and everyone bustling about getting ready to head up the mountain for breakfast at the Cliff House. Sparky and I hurriedly got dressed and geared up for our "last-in-line" departure. Al in his little white car and Buddy on his GS were behind us and we took off after the main group had left just a few minutes earlier.
I noticed immediately that I would need the heated grips and while riding casually up Hwy 23 I wondered if Sparky knew how to even turn on her heated grips and this worried me that her fingers would freeze with less than optimum protection with her thin gloves.
We wound up 23 and began those crooked and steep curves with no problems except going pretty slow. Buddy zipped around us all and left us behind to join the group sooner up ahead.
When we came to the double, 10 mph, uphill switchbacks I had become more confident of her skills since we had already gone around several tight turns at a moderate to slow pace. I made the turn and headed up the hill watching in my mirror as she came around behind me. I saw her go wide on the turn and disappear from view behind me and almost immediately heard Al's horn blasting for me to stop. I had already stopped and was dismounting the bike when Norrmad also came up from behind us. Another rider on a Kawasaki bike also stopped to help and by the time I made it the 50 yerds or so down the hill they were attempting to lift the bike off her leg. I assisted in that effort and we all were trying to calm her as she was crying and worrying about damaging the bike!
We were able to help her into Al's car, where she sat for a moment while we got the bike out of the ditch and I pushed it to the paved parking area on the curcve while Al proceeded to turn his car around while Norrmad flagged traffic. Several people stopped to help or offer to phone for help. We thanked them and they headed on up the hill.
Al made his way back down 23 to Ozark where there was a small hospital emergency room.
I rode my bike back and passed them to go find the hospital, etc. ahead of them. I got her situated in the emergency room and left Al to sit with her as I hurriedly retrieved the truck at the motel and went to pick up the other bike.
The doctors and nurses did thier jobs well and x-rayed her leg then the doctor did a thorough physical exam of the knee and lower leg. No fractures but a really bad hematoma was the diagnosis.
Sparky sat in the motel room drawing for the remainder of the Bash with ice on her leg and ingesting a really good pain killer every so often.
I want to tell you, I was impressed by the caring attitudes of all the Bash attendeed as they filed through visiting the convalescent patient in the motel room.
Thanks to all for that. It really helped her to keep a good attitude about the whole thing.
She says she understands what happened and its simply a matter of not having enough riding time under her belt. As she approached the curve her speed got way too slow and she was in a high gear. As she tried to accelerate into a lean and pull up the hill, she couldn't go anywhere fast so the bake came up and she went too wide into the ditch.
Today, the leg looks a lot worse with bruise spreading out, but it feels better she says.
I have to replace the two turn signal housings and one little mirror connector on the left side. That's it except for a few scratches on the paint.
Again, thanks to all who helped.
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Boxer & Jenny When I spoke to Phil right after the accident, (paraphrasing) I mentioned I would leave the bad news report to him as I did not have the facts and it would best be done by you. Once the knee pics appeared, the whole story became real and front page. When I came out of my room (?Sunday?) and saw Jenny standing there in a pants suit with you in the parking lot with NO crutches, I yelled out loud: "SHEEEE WALKS!!!!"
After giving her the Glad-you-are-OK hug, we chuckled a little then talked about the swelling. I then bent down, not thinking it was inappropriate, and size compared both knees, one-at-a-time, gently between my hands. My calibrated sensors told me . . . . WOW. . . . It was really swollen! She was in such good spirits, like always, I did not think about the big contribution of good drugs.
It must have been difficult on the ride home where elevating the wounded area to lessen the pain isn't that easy in a Toyota Pickup.
Phil, we have photographic proof you have a woman that is clearly out-of-your-league. Like me, you somehow found out how to not only catch her in the first place, but keep her perpetually happy, years after the alcohol and the honeymoon magic has worn off. BTW, some of us want a picture of the GOOD knee.
After giving her the Glad-you-are-OK hug, we chuckled a little then talked about the swelling. I then bent down, not thinking it was inappropriate, and size compared both knees, one-at-a-time, gently between my hands. My calibrated sensors told me . . . . WOW. . . . It was really swollen! She was in such good spirits, like always, I did not think about the big contribution of good drugs.
It must have been difficult on the ride home where elevating the wounded area to lessen the pain isn't that easy in a Toyota Pickup.
Phil, we have photographic proof you have a woman that is clearly out-of-your-league. Like me, you somehow found out how to not only catch her in the first place, but keep her perpetually happy, years after the alcohol and the honeymoon magic has worn off. BTW, some of us want a picture of the GOOD knee.
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Phil.....it finally happened.....CycleRob has fallen prey to overexposure to gasoline vapors........the old boy is falling appart.
I think he needs a "canisterectomy" as his activated carbon is spent. Have no choice but to ask Miss. Ann to come to the rescue.....please.
Im afraid of what he will ask for next......a picture of my chubby cheeks?

I think he needs a "canisterectomy" as his activated carbon is spent. Have no choice but to ask Miss. Ann to come to the rescue.....please.
Im afraid of what he will ask for next......a picture of my chubby cheeks?
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06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
Just got home about 3:30 PM. Just under 3500 miles, door to door.
Ozark is only 100 miles farther than Marlinton WVa was for me. 1203 miles from my driveway in Florida to the motel parking lot.
Even the Rockster liked this trip. I didn't have to add any oil, and fuel mileage jumped from 40-42 to 45-52 mpg. I've even got tread left on the rear tire!!
I've got some pics, if there's any good ones, I'll post 'em.
Biff was good company for the trip from Ozark to Nantahala NC(743 miles, about 14 hrs). He got a short tour of the north Ga mtns on Monday, plus a day of tight twisties in western NC on Tuesday.
It was a fun trip. Thanks so much to everyone , especially Gypsy.
(PS: Boxer & Cycle Rob, my dial up won't let me do your slide/video, sorry
)
RB
Ozark is only 100 miles farther than Marlinton WVa was for me. 1203 miles from my driveway in Florida to the motel parking lot.
Even the Rockster liked this trip. I didn't have to add any oil, and fuel mileage jumped from 40-42 to 45-52 mpg. I've even got tread left on the rear tire!!
I've got some pics, if there's any good ones, I'll post 'em.
Biff was good company for the trip from Ozark to Nantahala NC(743 miles, about 14 hrs). He got a short tour of the north Ga mtns on Monday, plus a day of tight twisties in western NC on Tuesday.
It was a fun trip. Thanks so much to everyone , especially Gypsy.
(PS: Boxer & Cycle Rob, my dial up won't let me do your slide/video, sorry
RB
RB's place in NC was fantastic, and we had a couple of great rides on some wnc secret roads. We also had the biggest pancakes I have ever had. 
It was hell having to slay the Dragon on my way out of RB's.
And Rob, the guy with the freightliner talked to us for about 1/2 hour.
The Ozark HS football team is known as the Hillbillies.
It was hell having to slay the Dragon on my way out of RB's.
And Rob, the guy with the freightliner talked to us for about 1/2 hour.
The Ozark HS football team is known as the Hillbillies.
Jeff (lifer #289)
'17 F800GSA
'04 R1150R
There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
'17 F800GSA
'04 R1150R
There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
Cyclerob & Boxermania-I must apologize. I just went back out to my truck this morning to pull something out of the back floor behind my seat. I discovered my TwinMax had slid up under the driver's seat.
I had been asked by Cyclerob to bring it for the tech session, and I DID bring it. I just forgot about it being in my truck once all the excitement started. It could have added another dimension to the TB synch procedure, had I remembered to pull it out.
It's a bummer having your brain get old.
I had been asked by Cyclerob to bring it for the tech session, and I DID bring it. I just forgot about it being in my truck once all the excitement started. It could have added another dimension to the TB synch procedure, had I remembered to pull it out.
It's a bummer having your brain get old.
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OK, I'll join the hyjack of this thread for a while . . . . then we have to get back to that Ozark thing.
I really don't have to make the comparison to the Twinmax to know which one is more accurate. I have used and made OilHead TB adjustments with all 3. The physical properties of mercury and the very sensitive water manometers is still an industry standard . . . . although Mercury was removed because of it's serious vapor sublimation hazards. If you can see the water/oil columns and there are no air gaps, they are 100% perfectly calibrated. Because of each ones specific gravity, an absolute water manometer is 13.5 times more sensitive than an absolute Mercury manometer, which I thought also beat the Twinmax for ease of use and accuracy.
I was never an advocate for the Twinmax and always used the Mercury filled CarbStyx. Then some practical individual (NOT ME) used clear thinking and applied the principal of a differential oil-or-water manometer for the TB synch. He prolly just copied the idea from equipment he uses at work. The Mercury CarbStyx works on absolute vacuum (each cylinder's vacuum to the atmosphere, individually) NOT the difference between the 2 intake manifolds like the differential water manometer does. It has to use the differential method rather than the absolute method or the water column would have to be taller than your house.
The Twinmax has 3 "issues" that I think all work against it. You're going to hate me (again) for this but . . .
1- The huge $$$ diff to own each one. The Twinmax costs about 40 TIMES MORE!!
2- Twinmax has an inherent parallax reading error (needle is a distance above the scale below it, so you must view it exactly perpendicular to the face) and a thin needle, fat line reading, swinging needle judgment call that require reading glasses for anybody older than 42.
3-The Twinmax's 9v battery is notorious for it's lack of steady power (current) and it's ability to maintain an even voltage over the timespan of a TB synch. Re-checking the zero is required after final adjustment is made.
The Twinmax's trumped up ability to be read while riding the bike is not only really dangerous, it is functionally unnecessary. Different on-the-road throttle loads will produce different synch errors. Pick one. If you must do the under load setting, use the 6th gear, on the centerstand, weighted front wheel dyno method. The good things about the Twinmax are that it is:
1- Easier to transport
2- Easier to store
3- Has no possibility of feeding water or oil into the intake manifold.
4- Has a very professional, high tech "air" about it.
OK, back to Ozark reporting . . . .
I'm uploading soon the other smaller filesize, but not compressed or video size reduced videos. Duckdave PM'd me saying he both video downsized and removed the (windnoise only) sound on that video to reduce the filesizes to 5.6 and 11.2MB for the 2 different sizes. We have options I erroneously did not consider. Dave also said: "I'll be traveling and may or may not be able to get back to you for a couple o days".
I just phoned Boxer to check on Jenny and got the answer machine.
I just uploaded another pic I found of Ride2Red saying goodbye to us, on his dew covered bike, Sunday morning. It's a good pic. This man has been on 6(?) Edelweiss tours! Crap. I haven't been on one.
The pic:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... MG9218.jpg
I really don't have to make the comparison to the Twinmax to know which one is more accurate. I have used and made OilHead TB adjustments with all 3. The physical properties of mercury and the very sensitive water manometers is still an industry standard . . . . although Mercury was removed because of it's serious vapor sublimation hazards. If you can see the water/oil columns and there are no air gaps, they are 100% perfectly calibrated. Because of each ones specific gravity, an absolute water manometer is 13.5 times more sensitive than an absolute Mercury manometer, which I thought also beat the Twinmax for ease of use and accuracy.
I was never an advocate for the Twinmax and always used the Mercury filled CarbStyx. Then some practical individual (NOT ME) used clear thinking and applied the principal of a differential oil-or-water manometer for the TB synch. He prolly just copied the idea from equipment he uses at work. The Mercury CarbStyx works on absolute vacuum (each cylinder's vacuum to the atmosphere, individually) NOT the difference between the 2 intake manifolds like the differential water manometer does. It has to use the differential method rather than the absolute method or the water column would have to be taller than your house.
The Twinmax has 3 "issues" that I think all work against it. You're going to hate me (again) for this but . . .
1- The huge $$$ diff to own each one. The Twinmax costs about 40 TIMES MORE!!
2- Twinmax has an inherent parallax reading error (needle is a distance above the scale below it, so you must view it exactly perpendicular to the face) and a thin needle, fat line reading, swinging needle judgment call that require reading glasses for anybody older than 42.
3-The Twinmax's 9v battery is notorious for it's lack of steady power (current) and it's ability to maintain an even voltage over the timespan of a TB synch. Re-checking the zero is required after final adjustment is made.
The Twinmax's trumped up ability to be read while riding the bike is not only really dangerous, it is functionally unnecessary. Different on-the-road throttle loads will produce different synch errors. Pick one. If you must do the under load setting, use the 6th gear, on the centerstand, weighted front wheel dyno method. The good things about the Twinmax are that it is:
1- Easier to transport
2- Easier to store
3- Has no possibility of feeding water or oil into the intake manifold.
4- Has a very professional, high tech "air" about it.
OK, back to Ozark reporting . . . .
I'm uploading soon the other smaller filesize, but not compressed or video size reduced videos. Duckdave PM'd me saying he both video downsized and removed the (windnoise only) sound on that video to reduce the filesizes to 5.6 and 11.2MB for the 2 different sizes. We have options I erroneously did not consider. Dave also said: "I'll be traveling and may or may not be able to get back to you for a couple o days".
I just phoned Boxer to check on Jenny and got the answer machine.
I just uploaded another pic I found of Ride2Red saying goodbye to us, on his dew covered bike, Sunday morning. It's a good pic. This man has been on 6(?) Edelweiss tours! Crap. I haven't been on one.
The pic:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... MG9218.jpg
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"Talent, On Loan, From God" --Rush Limbaugh--
I think one of the best moments for myself was when Rob and I were heading downhill into a tight right hander, and there was a bunch of Harley riders off their bikes and looking right at us as we passed them, scraping my kick stand as we went by made me feel MACHO! 
RIDE TOO PRETEND, PRETEND TOO RIDE. 
89 Oldwing, 07 WR250R, 14 KX250F
89 Oldwing, 07 WR250R, 14 KX250F
Kind of like the biker in the Village People type of macho eh?OU812 wrote:I think one of the best moments for myself was when Rob and I were heading downhill into a tight right hander, and there was a bunch of Harley riders off their bikes and looking right at us as we passed them, scraping my kick stand as we went by made me feel MACHO!
Jeff (lifer #289)
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There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
'17 F800GSA
'04 R1150R
There ain't no education in the second kick of a mule!
Yes, like the Village People, but w/o the dancing and singing.Biff's R wrote:Kind of like the biker in the Village People type of macho eh?OU812 wrote:I think one of the best moments for myself was when Rob and I were heading downhill into a tight right hander, and there was a bunch of Harley riders off their bikes and looking right at us as we passed them, scraping my kick stand as we went by made me feel MACHO!
RIDE TOO PRETEND, PRETEND TOO RIDE. 
89 Oldwing, 07 WR250R, 14 KX250F
89 Oldwing, 07 WR250R, 14 KX250F