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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:03 pm
by deilenberger
Very quickly..

The Hyperpro are class items. They look like jewelery, are finished perfectly and even come in a plastic packing case that I think I'll make into a tail-bag. It would look right at home on a GS..

Took about 3 hours to install - not rushing it, taking a lot of photos along the way. Klaus was here to help out, and see if there are any "gotcha's" on the US R1200R vs the German one. A few things in the instructions will need clarification - I'll be helping Klaus with that, as well as putting together a tool list and supplies list to do the job.

A few images - more to come shortly on my website..

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That's what came in the case (seen at the top..) a few adjusting tools, all the hardware, extensive documentation, stickers, and a T-shirt!

The rear shock is roughly 1lb lighter than the stock shock even though it has more functionality. The front is roughly the same weight, but the weight is mounted to the bike, not the telelever fork, so less unsprung weight (a good thing..) This is accomplished by mounting the body on the top, unlike the stock setup that mounts the body to the telelever fork.

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These are the high and low speed compression damping adjusters for the rear shock - 28 clicks each.

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The gold ring is the rebound damping adjuster - 48 clicks. The length adjustment is right under that (above the mount.)

The hydraulic preload adjuster mounts in the same place as the stock one - but it clicks when you adjust it - making it easy to get back to a setting if changed provided you remember the number of clicks.

I had the bike lowered ~ 3/4" - this doesn't seem to make it stand too upright on the sidestand, and the centerstand is still usable. The shocks are length adjustable (the front with the pre-load/sag adjuster, the rear has an adjustable mounting eye on the bottom mount - which can be changed without removing anything from the bike.) and were made so they could be adjusted to "stock" height.

One bit of trivia - the charcoal canister has to be removed to R&R the front shock. With it removed - there sure is a LOT of room for good things like a decent horn. It went back on - for now.. but it sure has me thinking that's a pretty dumb place for it.

Took a quick ride to make sure nothing fell off. Initial impression was these are impressive, especially since I've done no tuning on them. Big bumps are easily ridden through without slowing down, small bumps have gone away. I think I'm going to like these.

Approx cost is $1,800 for the pair - that's with all available options. Less options would be less $$.

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:50 am
by deilenberger
Quick update after the morning ride to work..

Front end - as delivered - right on. Rear shock had too much high speed compression damping. My test road is a state highway with tar-strips between old concrete pavement working their way up through the numerous macadam repaving jobs the state has done.. very sharp sudden impacts. The front shock handles these with aplomb - as if they're not there, but I'm getting some sharp impact through the rear. As a comparison the stock shock also fed sharp impacts like this up to my butt.. but I think I can tune these out with the Hyperpro setup.

I did notice my speed had increased 5-8 MPH, which is a sign my confidence in the suspension has improved. This is a subtle sign I've seen when I did aftermarket suspension on my other bikes that the suspension is working.

When I got to work I backed off both high and low speed compression damping a few clicks, and will see how it feels going home. May have to back off the rebound just a bit also.

Adjustments are a snap - the screwdriver blade on my Swiss army knife works perfectly :)

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:50 am
by parkec
Nice

:D

for some reason I thought you were just replacing the stock springs. :shock:

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:57 am
by sjbmw
Thanks Don. great write up.

I spoke to Klaus in Wisconsin about Hyperpro's for my 1150 this winter.
I also would like to get a 1/2 or 3/4 lowering...

In your estimation, would it be a install easy enough to hang around while being done? I have a little hike up there...

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:01 am
by deilenberger
sjbmw wrote:In your estimation, would it be a install easy enough to hang around while being done? I have a little hike up there...
It's easy enough.. and Klaus is always helpful to people who drop by his shop/warehouse.. plus you get to see a bit of his motorcycle collection.. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:03 am
by deilenberger
BTW - this really does sort of encourage me to purchase a rear-wheel hugger for the bike, since I know all sorts of crap will get tossed up on that pretty shock.

Anyone have one they've gotten from a US source that they like?

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:41 am
by Mr. Average
ShiftTech sells a nice carbon unit. It is the same one that fits the R1200S. Easy to install and you get a 10% discount if you are a member of Ducati.MS or Speedzilla. I think there are also discounts for us BMW types too. If you order ask for the discount at the time of the order. Sorry no pictures. I think this is the same one the Celticus has on his R12R. With the discount and shipping, a little less than 300.

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:08 pm
by Skippy
Very good looking shocks hope they ride as well and that you have great fun with them. Never knew you could get the Hyperpro kit without the purple springs.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:46 pm
by Caroanbill
My Wilbers have arrived in good time to go on the bike (two weeks and counting) - 14 days from order to delivery, inclduing a search at Wunderlich for black springs (got 'em - ah did'ny wan' the blue ones) and air freight Germany to Australia.

Mr Klink (or is that Colonel?) Motohansa only import Wilbers for BMWs, courtesy of their Wunderlich distributorship. All other Wilbers in Oz are distributed out of Melbourne.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:59 pm
by deilenberger
Skippy wrote:Very good looking shocks hope they ride as well and that you have great fun with them. Never knew you could get the Hyperpro kit without the purple springs.
I've been kind of waiting to report until I got them at least close to dialed in.

As delivered - they had too much high-speed compression damping and too much rebound damping. I initially felt some harshness on small high speed bumps, and what felt almost like bottoming on big high speed bumps (think a NJ highway expansion joint lump - which in other states would qualify as a speed bump to slow people down.)

I ended up adding more spring preload on the rear, and reducing both high and low speed damping from the factory setting. This eliminated the bottoming. It still was a bit rough over high-velocity bumps (small short bumps).. and reducing the rebound damping cured that.

Right now - it's very nice. Feels locked in - and smooths out the road at the same time. I can watch the front suspension working - moving up and down in response to bumps in the road - but they're not transmitted to the bars. Amazingly good.

I'm going to spend a few hours tomorrow on my tuning course - which is a section of state super slab for low-speed damping adjustments (the low speed refers the the suspension displacement velocity - not the speed of the bike), some good twisties through a development where there is never any traffic (rich people who apparently don't go out much) and some smaller 50-60MPH secondary roads. The course is about 5 miles in length, with a convenient bank parking lot to pull into to tweak the adjustments. I'll be making one adjustment per lap - one click per adjustment now.. this is the really fine tuning that if done right can result in an amazing suspension.

Right now - the Hyperpro suspension is on my highly recommended list.. just be prepared to spend a bit of time dialing it in (which I've also had to do with every other aftermarket suspension I've owned - which is a bunch..)