Suburban Machinery Peg Lowering

[dbrick]

Anyone out there with these bits? Do you notice the left peg's being moved outward?

[TAG-Caver]

I have a set that I love. If the peg is located slightly left, I don't notice it when riding, I just notice the extra legroom which makes a long day in the saddle much more enjoyable.

[AncientMariner]

I'm looking into these myself. I am concerned that my lowered suspension may not permit lowered pegs. Anyone know? Or have an opinion?

[gezerbike]

If you go to the Suburban Macinery site and look at the R 1200R page, they tell you that the left peg is moved out 1", to give clearance for the sidestand. This has been an issue with their stuff on many BMW's. If they go straight down an inch or so, it interfears with the sidestand. Trade off I guess.

[waynemathews]

Anyone out there with these bits? Do you notice the left peg's being moved outward?

It's a non-issue, less noticeable than the barely perceptible fore-aft foot peg offset on airheads.

[Caroanbill]

I've had mine 3 years, and have never noticed the 25mm set-out at all - even when I remind myself that it's there.
Previously had a similar set-out on lower pegs on my R1150RS, didn't notice that either.

[Anger]

I can't say anything about the affect with the lowered BMW but I do have them on my stock ride height R12 and they are awesome. Any perceived changes to the left shifter / peg relationship will be over in a week or so after muscle memory takes over.

I had these on my R1150R. The first time I rode my R12 with the stock pegs, my legs cramped bad. I immediately ordered and installed a set on the R12. IMO a very good investment.

[Tarmac]

If I can do this to the stock foot controls, then any lowering of the pegs will compromise the bikes ability to turn.

[Caroanbill]

If I can do this to the stock foot controls, then any lowering of the pegs will compromise the bikes ability to turn.

Well .. d'uh! Lowered pegs aren't for all of us, but some of us need 'em and some of us just like 'em.
Me , I don't scrape in my nightmares, let alone my dreams ...
However, when all we're done posin' , the OP asked: would he notice the offset?. Answer: no.
so the gratuitous pegscrape shot is .. umm .. gratuitous.

Ain't it great to have a bike that can be a lowered-pegs light tourer and a sportsbike?

[mistral]

If I can do this to the stock foot controls, then any lowering of the pegs will compromise the bikes ability to turn.

Well .. d'uh! Lowered pegs aren't for all of us, but some of us need 'em and some of us just like 'em.
Me , I don't scrape in my nightmares, let alone my dreams ...
However, when all we're done posin' , the OP asked: would he notice the offset?. Answer: no.
so the gratuitous pegscrape shot is .. umm .. gratuitous.

Ain't it great to have a bike that can be a lowered-pegs light tourer and a sportsbike?

That is funny I have a set and they feel natural. If you are cramped comfort over-rules everything else. You can always sell if you don't like them.

Ron

[dbrick]

Lowered pegs aren't for all of us, but some of us need 'em and some of us just like 'em.
Me , I don't scrape in my nightmares, let alone my dreams ...

Heh, you're talking about me here. I rode an R11RSL for almost fourteen years; it had GS footplates on it that lowered the riders footpegs 4 inches on each side. I once scraped the edge of my boot. It was blissfully comfortable for almost 100K miles.

[Tarmac]

If you are cramped comfort over-rules everything else. You can always sell if you don't like them.

Ron

Comfort over-rules dragging a peg, getting startled by it, standing the bike up and ridding off the side of the road, or over the dbl yellow line into on-coming traffic?

If your knees are cramped, a better solution is to get a taller seat

[jess]

I'm looking into these myself. I am concerned that my lowered suspension may not permit lowered pegs. Anyone know? Or have an opinion?

I've been pondering the same thing lately. I have one really tight cloverleaf on my commute that I know very well, and whenever there are no cars in front of me on that turn I lean the bike over as far as I can and attempt to scrape the pegs. Hasn't happened yet, not even close. I guess I'm just not aggressive enough of a rider, even when I try.

So I'm ordering the lowered pegs on my low-suspension bike.

[Caroanbill]

Comfort over-rules dragging a peg, getting startled by it, standing the bike up and ridding off the side of the road, or over the dbl yellow line into on-coming traffic? If your knees are cramped, a better solution is to get a taller seat

Geez loueeze. You're a my-size-fits-all kinda guy, aren't you! Some of us have short legs, some of us have knee issues - you may be able to use a tall seat, but I cannot.

More to the point, had you read our posts, you'd see we we both saluting you and poking a little fun at ourselves. We have no need to drag pegs because we ride a in different, more relaxed style. If you want my personal view, scraping pegs is 10/10ths riding, and anyone who rides that hard on a public road, leaving nothing to chance / debris / happenstance / mad idiots in cages .. is a bit of a maniac. But that's my personal view - as a member of a riding community(this one), I merely salute your cojones, and marvel that one bike can do both my kinda riding, and yours.

[mistral]

If you are cramped comfort over-rules everything else. You can always sell if you don't like them.

Ron

Comfort over-rules dragging a peg, getting startled by it, standing the bike up and ridding off the side of the road, or over the dbl yellow line into on-coming traffic?

If your knees are cramped, a better solution is to get a taller seat

Thanks for the ergonomics tip, however I am 6'4" and I have a taller seat. It is all I can do to make this bike comfortable. I actually ride on the agressive side. While I am sure you can ride well, I ride with some real fast dudes and they really don't drag their pegs. I will not run off the road because of my pegs.We are all not the same so what works for one might not for the other. If I ran around with my pegs dragging I would not try and tell someone not to get a peg lowering kit, because I know not everyone rides that way. They do make these kits for a reason.

Ride on and ride hard it sounds like fun to me.

Ron

[deilenberger]

I'm looking into these myself. I am concerned that my lowered suspension may not permit lowered pegs. Anyone know? Or have an opinion?

I've been pondering the same thing lately. I have one really tight cloverleaf on my commute that I know very well, and whenever there are no cars in front of me on that turn I lean the bike over as far as I can and attempt to scrape the pegs. Hasn't happened yet, not even close. I guess I'm just not aggressive enough of a rider, even when I try.

So I'm ordering the lowered pegs on my low-suspension bike.

If you're riding with the BMW lowered suspension, your ground clearance at full compression is identical to the ground clearance of a standard suspension bike. BMW took the height off the top so to speak. They reduced the travel of the shocks, but kept the maximum compression of the shocks the same as the stock shocks. (Try saying THAT three times!)

That is not the case on my bike since I spent a bit of time with Klaus at Hyperpro designing a lower shock that retained the suspension travel the bike has with the standard shocks. In my case - there might be some increased risk if I used lowered footpegs (which I'm not doing..) since under cornering loads when the suspension compresses I am coming closer to the road surface then you are.

[AncientMariner]

I'm a little concerned about cornering clearance with the lowered suspension and the peg lowering kit. So, I've made a styrofoam mockup demonstrating where the lowered pegs will ride. I went out for about 100 break in miles today and could not get them to touch down. Will try again for a few more miles:

Right side, dropped 1-1/2":


Left side, dropped 1-1/2". offset 3/4" to clear sidestand:


Bruce

[dbrick]

Nice idea, Bruce.

My experience on the RS was that I never touched a peg down, 'tho I could touch a boot toe down if I a) was riding aggressively, and b) I didn't move my foot up to place my toe on the peg. Only if both conditions were met could/would I get a touch.

[jess]

If you're riding with the BMW lowered suspension, your ground clearance at full compression is identical to the ground clearance of a standard suspension bike. BMW took the height off the top so to speak. They reduced the travel of the shocks, but kept the maximum compression of the shocks the same as the stock shocks. (Try saying THAT three times!)

That's an excellent tidbit. Thanks, Don.

[jess]

I'm a little concerned about cornering clearance with the lowered suspension and the peg lowering kit. So, I've made a styrofoam mockup demonstrating where the lowered pegs will ride. I went out for about 100 break in miles today and could not get them to touch down. Will try again for a few more miles:

Here I was trying to put together a clamp and camera on my bike so I could get a view of the pegs while in some tight turns. And with $0.02 of tape and styrofoam, you've beat me to the punch.

Brilliant idea.