New R1200R vs R1200R - Where is the new R1200R/S

[Boxer-Lust]

Like we all knew the R1200R was getting the new camhead engine and a little make-up!
For people who don't have a BMW Roadster yet for sure the best naked bike on the market if you can afford to spend the $$$...
But as an already R1200R owner,I feel a little underwhelmed about the facelift.
The instrument cluster could have looked nicer.Kind of reminds me of the old R100R cluster from 1993 that wasn't one of BMW's design highlight either...
If black or silver engine block that is a matter of taste.
The old classic black I liked better than the new metallic black.
The spoke wheels look nice but they look like they use tubes;outch!
Even the R100R from 1993 had tubeless tires.
What I like is the new and better looking beefier fork and better sounding a la 2010 GS exhaust valve exhaust system.No need anymore for a pricecy aftermarket system.
What I was looking forward to was a 2nd version of the R as a real sport-touring replacement for R1100RS or R1100S of late
R1200R/S
I don't understand why BMW leaves such a big gap in it's model-line where the japanese have all 2nd versions with half-fairing and lower bars for their Fazer,Bandit,CBF and Z1000 naked bikes
Anyways at least I don't have to kill the pig...
If it wasn't for the tubes I would have liked to get the new spoked wheels for my current black R1200R with Wunderlich-S fairing...but tube tires are too "classic" for me...
I hoped for a more "classic" version of the R1200R-Classic.
With S-fairing,nice details like classic looking valve covers,tail section and paintjobs evoking the iconic R90S...
Again,nice bike the new 2011-R but I hoped for a little more.
If the handling is better with the 6mm beefier fork I might retrofit that one...
The RT vs "new" K1200S/R1200S wheels make no diffeence to me;both look nice!
Hex or camhead is also a toss.Easy to adjust the valves yourself for free or not as easy and not for free but longer adjustment intervals?!
Hey BMW bring on that R1200R/S...

[Bob Ain't Stoppin']

Well Lust. If you want an S or RS bike, you shouldn't be talking about the R bike. While I personally agree that a current RS bike would be great, the real problem has always been that people don't buy the RS model that much. My guess is that BMW has decided that there aren't enough RS buyers around to justify the effort. The 1150RS only sold a few copies in its' last couple of years.

The R bike is the roadster. Don't try to make it into something else.

[Boxer-Lust]

Bob,that is why I said a second version complementing the naked version just like the japanese do...
B.t.w. the R1100/1150RS and R1100S sold a combined 80000 copies...
Not as much as RT or GS but probably more than the R...

[Bob Ain't Stoppin']

The 1100RS sold very well for the first year or two. After that, in the US, not so good. I don't have the numbers, but it was just a couple hundred the last years. I think it did better un europ.

[Boxer-Lust]

Bob those are BMW production numbers for worldwide sales...
The R sells pretty good in europe but poorly in the states.
I hoped that the R would have had a second R/S version with half fairing and more forward seating position...but oh well life is full of disappointments...
We will survive...
I like the spoked wheels and bigger fork though...
But only if they are tubeless...otherwise not worth the hassle in case of a flat tire on the road.

[gezerbike]

a little history here. The RRS was the first of the new Oilhead Boxers and won many awards, both there and in Europe. Sales were great. The next Oilhead to come was the GS and it too was a big hit. Butthe bike alot of people were waiting for was the RT. When it debuted here, it sold like hotcakes. But what killed the RS more was the pricing.......the RT came with bags and the electric screen as standard stuff, while you had to add the cost of the bags to the RS. When you tallied it up. the RS was almostthe same price as the RT. Same motor, tranny, suspension plus full fairing and the electric screen. The RT virtually killed the RS. I had an 02 1150 RS that was just a great bike...it did everything well.

I think that that same syndrome has hurt the R slaes here in the US. A guy walks into a showroom and looks at all the bikes with fairings and heated seats and electric screens and then looks at the naked R. Hey, my 08 R listed out at $ 15,340 in 09, and that was without bags. Add bags to the R and all of sudden a few bucks more gets you the RT.