Smoking Paint Job?
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I have the Scout on my RR and of all the fairing/windscreens I have tried this is my favorite. No buffeting, I added the airoflow wings, I have different windshields but the 13" is my favorite for sporting around. I just received aan 18" and am about to cut it to my specs. That said get the largest one and cut it down to your preffered shape and height, cheaper in the long run.
Michael
MG 78 LeMans
2002 R1150R
78 R100S
MG 78 LeMans
2002 R1150R
78 R100S
Thanks fellas...
Hirsty, good tip, I did manage to find the thread / pictures you mentioned. Bike is not the right color, but those pix certainly give me a better quality starting point (with lots of angles too!) than the few shots available on Parabellums website.
Samiam, think I've seen pictures of the bike you mention. Not exactly my cup of tea, but definitely an interesting concept. Especially in the Luftwaffe sort of style, highly appropriate to a fine German machine!
Michael, I appreciate the feed back on your experience with the Scout. I've got the flyscreen, and a Cee Bailey's for my bike, neither of which I particularly care for. The flyscreen is stylish enough, but for long trips I get tired of eating bugs. Ten years on Ducati's convinced me that it was time to have a bit more wind protection! The Cee Bailey's screen definitely keeps more wind off, but with the "price" of a lot more noise. Plus, it doesn't fit particularly well, after monkeying around with the mounting system a LOT I can barely get this thing "level" on the bike.
I like the Scout and was attracted to it by the vented design. Many moons ago I rode a Suzuki 850G with a Pacifico Aero frame mount fairing. It had a VERY similar vent at the base of the windshield that really smoothed up the airflow. After I'd had the 850 for several years I purchased a 1000G with a Vetter Windjammer and learned just how effective the Pacifico had been. At high speeds (80 plus) the Windjammer had such strong backdraft it would push you into the handlebars. The Aero fairing at even higher speeds
was smooth as glass. Think those little vents help the laminar flow characteristics a bunch! Thanks for sharing your thoughts....
Ciao! BJ
Hirsty, good tip, I did manage to find the thread / pictures you mentioned. Bike is not the right color, but those pix certainly give me a better quality starting point (with lots of angles too!) than the few shots available on Parabellums website.
Samiam, think I've seen pictures of the bike you mention. Not exactly my cup of tea, but definitely an interesting concept. Especially in the Luftwaffe sort of style, highly appropriate to a fine German machine!
Michael, I appreciate the feed back on your experience with the Scout. I've got the flyscreen, and a Cee Bailey's for my bike, neither of which I particularly care for. The flyscreen is stylish enough, but for long trips I get tired of eating bugs. Ten years on Ducati's convinced me that it was time to have a bit more wind protection! The Cee Bailey's screen definitely keeps more wind off, but with the "price" of a lot more noise. Plus, it doesn't fit particularly well, after monkeying around with the mounting system a LOT I can barely get this thing "level" on the bike.
I like the Scout and was attracted to it by the vented design. Many moons ago I rode a Suzuki 850G with a Pacifico Aero frame mount fairing. It had a VERY similar vent at the base of the windshield that really smoothed up the airflow. After I'd had the 850 for several years I purchased a 1000G with a Vetter Windjammer and learned just how effective the Pacifico had been. At high speeds (80 plus) the Windjammer had such strong backdraft it would push you into the handlebars. The Aero fairing at even higher speeds
was smooth as glass. Think those little vents help the laminar flow characteristics a bunch! Thanks for sharing your thoughts....Ciao! BJ
Thanks fellas...
Hirsty, good tip, I did manage to find the thread / pictures you mentioned. Bike is not the right color, but those pix certainly give me a better quality starting point (with lots of angles too!) than the few shots available on Parabellums website.
Samiam, think I've seen pictures of the bike you mention. Not exactly my cup of tea, but definitely an interesting concept. Especially in the Luftwaffe sort of style, highly appropriate to a fine German machine!
Michael, I appreciate the feed back on your experience with the Scout. I've got the flyscreen, and a Cee Bailey's for my bike, neither of which I particularly care for. The flyscreen is stylish enough, but for long trips I get tired of eating bugs. Ten years on Ducati's convinced me that it was time to have a bit more wind protection! The Cee Bailey's screen definitely keeps more wind off, but with the "price" of a lot more noise. Plus, it doesn't fit particularly well, after monkeying around with the mounting system a LOT I can barely get this thing "level" on the bike.
I like the Scout and was attracted to it by the vented design. Many moons ago I rode a Suzuki 850G with a Pacifico Aero frame mount fairing. It had a VERY similar vent at the base of the windshield that really smoothed up the airflow. After I'd had the 850 for several years I purchased a 1000G with a Vetter Windjammer and learned just how effective the Pacifico had been. At high speeds (80 plus) the Windjammer had such strong backdraft it would push you into the handlebars. The Aero fairing at even higher speeds was smooth as glass. Think those little vents help the laminar flow characteristics a bunch! Thanks for sharing your thoughts....
Ciao! BJ
Hirsty, good tip, I did manage to find the thread / pictures you mentioned. Bike is not the right color, but those pix certainly give me a better quality starting point (with lots of angles too!) than the few shots available on Parabellums website.
Samiam, think I've seen pictures of the bike you mention. Not exactly my cup of tea, but definitely an interesting concept. Especially in the Luftwaffe sort of style, highly appropriate to a fine German machine!
Michael, I appreciate the feed back on your experience with the Scout. I've got the flyscreen, and a Cee Bailey's for my bike, neither of which I particularly care for. The flyscreen is stylish enough, but for long trips I get tired of eating bugs. Ten years on Ducati's convinced me that it was time to have a bit more wind protection! The Cee Bailey's screen definitely keeps more wind off, but with the "price" of a lot more noise. Plus, it doesn't fit particularly well, after monkeying around with the mounting system a LOT I can barely get this thing "level" on the bike.
I like the Scout and was attracted to it by the vented design. Many moons ago I rode a Suzuki 850G with a Pacifico Aero frame mount fairing. It had a VERY similar vent at the base of the windshield that really smoothed up the airflow. After I'd had the 850 for several years I purchased a 1000G with a Vetter Windjammer and learned just how effective the Pacifico had been. At high speeds (80 plus) the Windjammer had such strong backdraft it would push you into the handlebars. The Aero fairing at even higher speeds
was smooth as glass. Think those little vents help the laminar flow characteristics a bunch! Thanks for sharing your thoughts....Ciao! BJ
Hmm...winter continues on and on in the great Northwest...and as I get ready to commit to the Smokin' Black and Silver paint job I'm getting cold feet. Sort of. I've found a painter that can do it, and I trust him, but it's not cheap. Nor particularly thrifty!
But the reason for my cold feet isn't really the cost. BUT...wait for it...wait for it...I'm thinking about selling the R and finding an R1100S! The S is sort of what I really wanted at the time of buying the R, the R's functional adaptability, and the opportunity to have my spouse ride pillion again, swayed me to the R.
Guess what? We've found that Cindy doesn't really enjoy riding pillion so much anymore! Shoulda figured! Oh well...say la vie!
Don't get me wrong...think the R is the best machine I've ever had the pleasure of owning and riding. The Ducati's I rode for 10 years or so were a bit more engaging, but don't need/want that kind of speed and "comfort" any longer. Think an S with tall screen and other mods would suit me better than the R...I do some long distance stuff (500m/day) occasionally, but honestly most of my riding is closer to home. Think I'd just like a somewhat sportier ride...
So, after that long-winded diatribe...wondering if there's anyone out there on the forum who has significant experience on both the R and an S?
If so, opinions or ideas would be VERY welcome! Please feel free to tell me I'm about to make a BIG mistake!
Thanks all!!! BJ
But the reason for my cold feet isn't really the cost. BUT...wait for it...wait for it...I'm thinking about selling the R and finding an R1100S! The S is sort of what I really wanted at the time of buying the R, the R's functional adaptability, and the opportunity to have my spouse ride pillion again, swayed me to the R.
Guess what? We've found that Cindy doesn't really enjoy riding pillion so much anymore! Shoulda figured! Oh well...say la vie!
Don't get me wrong...think the R is the best machine I've ever had the pleasure of owning and riding. The Ducati's I rode for 10 years or so were a bit more engaging, but don't need/want that kind of speed and "comfort" any longer. Think an S with tall screen and other mods would suit me better than the R...I do some long distance stuff (500m/day) occasionally, but honestly most of my riding is closer to home. Think I'd just like a somewhat sportier ride...
So, after that long-winded diatribe...wondering if there's anyone out there on the forum who has significant experience on both the R and an S?
If so, opinions or ideas would be VERY welcome! Please feel free to tell me I'm about to make a BIG mistake!
Thanks all!!! BJ
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boxermania
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I thought long and hard about repainting my bike, unfortunately didn't have the opportunity, already had converted to the dual lights and the modified Givi A 750 screen painted the Atlanta Blue color.
On a lazy afternoon I played with some color combinations and found that our bikes wear a color transition much better than a single color, because they thin out from front to rear.
Check the three examples below. Original Alanta Blue with blue Jet-Hot coated exhaust, nice wear.....crappy color. Yellow and black....hmmmm and red (wine) with grey, my favorite. I even acquired other parts to paint so I could return my bike to the original color. Do excuse the roughness of the pics as it was done in ~ 15 minutes.
On a lazy afternoon I played with some color combinations and found that our bikes wear a color transition much better than a single color, because they thin out from front to rear.
Check the three examples below. Original Alanta Blue with blue Jet-Hot coated exhaust, nice wear.....crappy color. Yellow and black....hmmmm and red (wine) with grey, my favorite. I even acquired other parts to paint so I could return my bike to the original color. Do excuse the roughness of the pics as it was done in ~ 15 minutes.
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06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
Boxermania,
Thx for the post and ideas...I've managed to find a few different paint jobs surfing around on a variety of websites. You're right in that the R does take to two tone paint pretty well. I have decided to emulate the R90S smoke paint job, but the second choice was a combo like you suggest...color from the 70's model Ducati 750SS which was silver and sort of an aquamarine. But decided an Italian paint job might not be completely compatible with my Bavarian mistress. LOL.
Wish I could find a copy of what I thought was the coolest paint job, think it was on a Dutch shop somewhere. Kind of a candy tangerine/orange with a cream color accents. Had some chrome bits here and there as well, and although my description makes it sound kind of funky it was actually quiet beautiful.
Oh decisions, decisions... I have a friend who would buy my bike on a moments notice. And there are almost always a few 2004 R1100S models around on the web for sale, particularly the one I like with the gray/mandarin paint job with the mandarin color wheels.
Or should I just do a special one-of-kind custom jobs on my R?
A puzzler....too bad I can't own two bikes at one time!!!
Ciao! BJ
Thx for the post and ideas...I've managed to find a few different paint jobs surfing around on a variety of websites. You're right in that the R does take to two tone paint pretty well. I have decided to emulate the R90S smoke paint job, but the second choice was a combo like you suggest...color from the 70's model Ducati 750SS which was silver and sort of an aquamarine. But decided an Italian paint job might not be completely compatible with my Bavarian mistress. LOL.
Wish I could find a copy of what I thought was the coolest paint job, think it was on a Dutch shop somewhere. Kind of a candy tangerine/orange with a cream color accents. Had some chrome bits here and there as well, and although my description makes it sound kind of funky it was actually quiet beautiful.
Oh decisions, decisions... I have a friend who would buy my bike on a moments notice. And there are almost always a few 2004 R1100S models around on the web for sale, particularly the one I like with the gray/mandarin paint job with the mandarin color wheels.
Or should I just do a special one-of-kind custom jobs on my R?
A puzzler....too bad I can't own two bikes at one time!!!
Ciao! BJ
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Paint from a 2000 Ford Mustang, Sunburst Gold. Solid colors are best. Left the tank decal off. The metallic paint looks the best in the Sun.
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Right after I had it painted I attended a BMW Owner Appreciation Weekend in NJ where their corporate offices are. There weren't many R1150R's in the huge parking lot at the time as it was a new model and easy to spot. Several months later, the same color "appeared" as a "European color only" for the R1150R. The colors are so close, it could not have been a coincidence. The latest model Honda GL-1800 also uses that very similar Ford color.
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http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... ob-POW.jpg
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... eeper9.jpg
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r87/ ... eeper3.jpg
Right after I had it painted I attended a BMW Owner Appreciation Weekend in NJ where their corporate offices are. There weren't many R1150R's in the huge parking lot at the time as it was a new model and easy to spot. Several months later, the same color "appeared" as a "European color only" for the R1150R. The colors are so close, it could not have been a coincidence. The latest model Honda GL-1800 also uses that very similar Ford color.
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boxermania
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NAIAD
As far as color chices go, you might want to check this site
http://www.HOKpaint.com
I do recomend hat you play with the scenarious, on a good size pic like I did, as it will give you a serious view of what the final product will look like rather than visualization and a paint chip.
Good luck on your project..........
As far as color chices go, you might want to check this site
http://www.HOKpaint.com
I do recomend hat you play with the scenarious, on a good size pic like I did, as it will give you a serious view of what the final product will look like rather than visualization and a paint chip.
Good luck on your project..........
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06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
06 Suzuki Burgman 650 "state of flux"
79 CBX
CycleRob,
thanks for the pix, been awhile since I've seen your ride. As I recall that small windscreen is from a Buell? Looks pretty sweet! My rides out west can be long, sometimes hot, and usually very buggy, so I like a bit more protection from the elements. Have thought about one of the Givi screens, sort of like one recall on Patrick's black R. Or possibly the Parabellum Scout. That Parabellum just seems a little pricy, but it would probably be closer to representing an R90S type paint scheme.
Boxermania,
thanks for your input too. My painter has a particular brand of products he likes and is familiar with mixing, etc., so if I go ahead we'll probably use his stuff. I've played around with photoshop a bit, but had a bit better luck just printing out a picture of a silver R, then using artists color pencils to shade to black in the pattern in various ways. The cooler shrouds will stay mostly silver with a trailing pattern flowing over the top sides of the tank, joining together from both sides at the back of the tank and flowing down and fading out towards the seat. Tank top and knee cutouts will be pure black. Another silver edge will flow of the bottom of shroud, then flow back on the side pieces under the seat. Liked your idea of different color wheels, but not totally sure with colors I've picked that that will work. Frankly biggest challenge seems to be how to "smoke" the beak. Tried lots of combos, but just haven't found the right solution.
Oh yeah, and I'm still looking at gray/mandarin S models. Gee, wish I could hit the lottery and be able to have 2 (or 3,4,5 ???) bikes in the stable!
Ciao! BJ
thanks for the pix, been awhile since I've seen your ride. As I recall that small windscreen is from a Buell? Looks pretty sweet! My rides out west can be long, sometimes hot, and usually very buggy, so I like a bit more protection from the elements. Have thought about one of the Givi screens, sort of like one recall on Patrick's black R. Or possibly the Parabellum Scout. That Parabellum just seems a little pricy, but it would probably be closer to representing an R90S type paint scheme.
Boxermania,
thanks for your input too. My painter has a particular brand of products he likes and is familiar with mixing, etc., so if I go ahead we'll probably use his stuff. I've played around with photoshop a bit, but had a bit better luck just printing out a picture of a silver R, then using artists color pencils to shade to black in the pattern in various ways. The cooler shrouds will stay mostly silver with a trailing pattern flowing over the top sides of the tank, joining together from both sides at the back of the tank and flowing down and fading out towards the seat. Tank top and knee cutouts will be pure black. Another silver edge will flow of the bottom of shroud, then flow back on the side pieces under the seat. Liked your idea of different color wheels, but not totally sure with colors I've picked that that will work. Frankly biggest challenge seems to be how to "smoke" the beak. Tried lots of combos, but just haven't found the right solution.
Oh yeah, and I'm still looking at gray/mandarin S models. Gee, wish I could hit the lottery and be able to have 2 (or 3,4,5 ???) bikes in the stable!
Ciao! BJ