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News bulletin...
Dallara won't be with us for a while.
He has been given a one-week "time out" with an option to repent or face total ex-communication.
Welcome to Ding Dong School...
He has been given a one-week "time out" with an option to repent or face total ex-communication.
Welcome to Ding Dong School...
Dave
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I've spent most of my life on motorcycles, the rest I've just wasted...
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I've spent most of my life on motorcycles, the rest I've just wasted...
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This "banning" stuff is going to be trouble.
There are only two ways for Doug to do this:
1- Lock someone's login. Big deal! Log in as something else or as a "Guest". Hmmmm, maybe that's why we've seen so many guest posts lately?
2- Lock out traffic from your IP. Since static IPs are rare any more (most ISPs assign you a new one each time you log on), the only way he can do that is to lock out an entire ISP. Bad news for anyone also using your ISP. For example, if I were banned 2/3 of greater Cincinnati would not have access...
One thing I've learned over the years is it takes 10 times the energy to fight than it does to cooperate...
There are only two ways for Doug to do this:
1- Lock someone's login. Big deal! Log in as something else or as a "Guest". Hmmmm, maybe that's why we've seen so many guest posts lately?
2- Lock out traffic from your IP. Since static IPs are rare any more (most ISPs assign you a new one each time you log on), the only way he can do that is to lock out an entire ISP. Bad news for anyone also using your ISP. For example, if I were banned 2/3 of greater Cincinnati would not have access...
One thing I've learned over the years is it takes 10 times the energy to fight than it does to cooperate...
Well this is my last word on the matter before my self-imposed vacation.
I want to know who the Nancy-boys were who had to get Doug to fight their battle for them.
Over and out until December 17 for this member!
I want to know who the Nancy-boys were who had to get Doug to fight their battle for them.
Over and out until December 17 for this member!
Gord
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. - No. 6
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. - No. 6
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Regarding Allan's "ban"..hopefully he'll respect his "time out", think about what Doug has requested and be back with us next week. It's his choice. He was asked to take a chill pill by me and Doug, and he didn't seem to get the message. Regardless of his value to this board, nobody gets licence to continue to be disruptive without consequences. Not me, not Dallara, not anybody. It aint no big thang as Patrick would say, but some of us just don't understand simple courtesies and when things get to a head, stuff happens. It's sad, but that's life. It's the way it is at work, at school, everywhere. I don't know why people think they can get away with unruly behavior on the Internet. Has something to do with not being face to face with a real person. I've been guilty of that myself. But I've noticed, that many of the people here that are being asked to be a leetle bit more respective of others, are NOT the same way in person. I've met many of you at different rides, and the behavior is different. It shouldnt be!
So, thats my two cents on the matter. I would respectively ask that people not get all blown up over this. If you cant deal with it, then take a "time out" for yourself, but please don't continue this thread unless you have something positive to contribute. Now, I may be wrong about this, but I'm guessing that Dallara contacted Dave about his "time out", or contacted somebody about it, maybe for sympathy, or maybe because he just cant stand being ostracized and has to vindicate himself. He could have just kept it to himself, took a week off, and quietly resumed business as usual. Instead, people are going to get all blown up over this, and they dont know or have all the facts. They don't need to know either! So, Puleeze...just everybody stop acting like big s*hits. After all, we're just lukewarm diaharea (please notice I said "we"...I'm as guilty as the next one for having an over active ego sometimes too!)
Mark
So, thats my two cents on the matter. I would respectively ask that people not get all blown up over this. If you cant deal with it, then take a "time out" for yourself, but please don't continue this thread unless you have something positive to contribute. Now, I may be wrong about this, but I'm guessing that Dallara contacted Dave about his "time out", or contacted somebody about it, maybe for sympathy, or maybe because he just cant stand being ostracized and has to vindicate himself. He could have just kept it to himself, took a week off, and quietly resumed business as usual. Instead, people are going to get all blown up over this, and they dont know or have all the facts. They don't need to know either! So, Puleeze...just everybody stop acting like big s*hits. After all, we're just lukewarm diaharea (please notice I said "we"...I'm as guilty as the next one for having an over active ego sometimes too!)
Mark
Hey, shouldn't this thread be moved to "off topic" or the "member's section?" Futhermore, how 'bout all the incarnations of "the lastest," "news bulletin," or "whatever" be moved and/or lumped (or yes, even face the dreaded D word - deletion) as one, as it now permeates the board in numerous sections...
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Mark, there is a lot of chatter off-board, though. People - a lot of people - are saying that this was over a spat with Pat. They are also saying that Pat was dishing as well as he got. It's all hearsay now, the whole thread is gone.Instead, people are going to get all blown up over this, and they dont know or have all the facts. They don't need to know either!
I've been around here as long as you and Pat have, though not as active. We've all seen the whole board upset then calm down from time to time. This isn't one of them.
There is talk of double standards, censorship, and the like. The word from Doug and you guys is "nevermind, go about your business". All people are wanting is a little sunshine - let's see the process behind the decisions.
There is real fear in the water this time. For example, I'm submitting this in the hope it will be recieved constructively. What if you guys decide I am just being disruptive? Will my name be dragged through the mud in front of friends I have talked with for years? Will my login be denied? Will I have access only at the hotspots (away from my ISP)?
...and if it all comes to pass that way, do you think the board will not take note of it?
This is incomprehensible. We are going to “get all blown up over this†because we do not have all the facts, and we are not privy to said facts? The mind numbs.mcooperstein wrote:... Instead, people are going to get all blown up over this, and they dont know or have all the facts. They don't need to know either!
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Trust me Dean, you don't have all the facts. And it would be "mind numbing" for anybody to even want to always have "all the facts". It aint possible. The bottom line...it's Dougs site. He can run it the way he wants. If you don't agree, open your own site and run it the way you want to. I can live with that, can you?
Guys, we are all grown men and i am so sick of hearing all the banter....Lets all grow up....Follow the rules of this board, if you dont like the rules,,move along then to another board. Respect each other and express opinions in a respectful way or ur gonna have trouble.....simple enough. Lets get back to the bikes....
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arkline,
Don't drink of the Kool-Aid tainted by untruths. Below is my statement that you changed around to suit your needs, or those of another.......
"Either the "BMW R1150R/T K1200R R1100R/T Message Board Forum" works for you, or it doesn't. AND it is an oversimplification to suggest that one, "Love it, or leave it"....... It has become what it is today, because people chose to stay and change it."
Can people not see why threads like this DO NOT belong on the opening page of a BMW R1150R site? First time visitors and recent Rock & Roadster owners have no interest in this school-girl drama. It does them a disservice to ask that they wade through this dunnage.
I'm going to bed now. Unlike the posers, wannabe's, and poseurs who feel compelled to whine & complain about not getting their way, I'm going on a motorcycle ride in the morning.
Don't drink of the Kool-Aid tainted by untruths. Below is my statement that you changed around to suit your needs, or those of another.......
"Either the "BMW R1150R/T K1200R R1100R/T Message Board Forum" works for you, or it doesn't. AND it is an oversimplification to suggest that one, "Love it, or leave it"....... It has become what it is today, because people chose to stay and change it."
Can people not see why threads like this DO NOT belong on the opening page of a BMW R1150R site? First time visitors and recent Rock & Roadster owners have no interest in this school-girl drama. It does them a disservice to ask that they wade through this dunnage.
I'm going to bed now. Unlike the posers, wannabe's, and poseurs who feel compelled to whine & complain about not getting their way, I'm going on a motorcycle ride in the morning.
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